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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: {ga .i'amsi} requires the pause, if I'm not mistaken. It seems as easy to distinguish {gai'amsi} from {ga .i'amsi} as {dai} from {da .i}. On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 3:07 AM, John Cowan wrote: > Alex Burka scripsit: > > > > {gai'amsi} doesn't have a consonant cluster in the first five letters after > > > removing y'y and ybu. > > > > > > > > > This is true, but even with no cluster there is nowhere for it to > > break up (since y'ybu can't start or end a word and -ms- is not an > > initial cluster). So, at least under camxes, it is a zi'evla. > > > > > Nevertheless, that consonant cluster is a requirement. 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On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 3:07 AM, John Cowan wrote: > Alex Burka scripsit: > > > > {gai'amsi} doesn't have a consonant cluster in the first five letters after > > > removing y'y and ybu. > > > > > > > > > This is true, but even with no cluster there is nowhere for it to > > break up (since y'ybu can't start or end a word and -ms- is not an > > initial cluster). So, at least under camxes, it is a zi'evla. > > > > > Nevertheless, that consonant cluster is a requirement. In any case, > it can't be distinguished from "ga i'amsi" in writing, though > different in speech. > > Some sequences are just junk, and that's all there is to them. > > -- > John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org (mailto:cowan@ccil.org) > I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com (mailto:bpfk-list@googlegroups.com). > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. 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{ga .i'amsi} requires the pause, if I'm not mistaken. I= t seems as easy to distinguish {gai'amsi} from {ga .i'amsi} as {dai} from {= da .i}.
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On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at= 3:07 AM, John Cowan wrote:

Alex Burka scripsit:
{= gai'amsi} doesn't have a consonant cluster in the first five letters after =
removing y'y and ybu.

This is true, but even with no cluster there is nowhere for it to
break up (since y'ybu can't start or end a word and -ms- is not an
=
initial cluster). So, at least under camxes, it is a zi'evla.

Nevertheless, that consonant cluster is= a requirement. In any case,
it can't be distinguished from "ga = i'amsi" in writing, though
different in speech.

Some sequences are just junk, and that's all there is to them.

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