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[2607:f470:8:64:5ea5::2]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v10si1029112qcd.1.2015.01.02.12.47.51 for ; Fri, 02 Jan 2015 12:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aburka@seas.upenn.edu designates 2607:f470:8:64:5ea5::2 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f470:8:64:5ea5::2; Received: from [10.4.104.133] ([70.42.157.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by talbot.seas.upenn.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t02KlkOP003587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:47:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 15:47:39 -0500 From: Alex Burka To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <1701A1D404454F4591FA917E3BF90F06@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54A703B0.5000209@gmail.com> References: <5660b66f-68e1-4e9c-b4ce-1713a7bf1491@googlegroups.com> <7317B43184D74BC1B4767AA54F8988EA@gmail.com> <20141220015319.GA22447@mercury.ccil.org> <9d32b667-8feb-45c9-97e2-f6ea0a771947@googlegroups.com> <9901a84c-7aea-4359-9cf7-df54606c3c8f@googlegroups.com> <54A703B0.5000209@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="54a703eb_9d0cdb8_17f" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5400 definitions=5800 signatures=585085 X-PP-Spam-Details: rule=add_spam_details policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1111160001 definitions=main-1501020202 X-Original-Sender: aburka@seas.upenn.edu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aburka@seas.upenn.edu designates 2607:f470:8:64:5ea5::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aburka@seas.upenn.edu Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 10172 --54a703eb_9d0cdb8_17f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline {'} is never omissible in the official dialect. =20 On Friday, January 2, 2015 at 3:46 PM, And Rosta wrote: > Under what circumstances is {'} omissible? > It is phonetic/phonological omission, or only orthographic omission? > =20 > Gleki Arxokuna, On 02/01/2015 16:07: > > I consider it a different spelling of {fortepi'ano} just like {influenz= a} and {influe'nza} are the same word for me. And when i was adding {fortep= iano} the results of the poll werent known > > =20 > > 2015-01-02 7:53 GMT-08:00 guskant >: > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > Le samedi 3 janvier 2015 00:30:20 UTC+9, la gleki a =C3=A9crit : > > =20 > > i proposed it for influ'enza and i already added it. > > =20 > > =20 > > You did thus expect the poll result, then why did you recently add "for= tepiano" to la jbovlaste? > > =20 > > In any case, you can "correct" the concerned words by hand, but didn't = we talk about an automatic method? > > =20 > > 2015-01-02 6:03 GMT-08:00 guskant : > > =20 > > The poll was closed on December 27, 2014. The winner is > > =20 > > 2. disallow CgV in cmevla/fu'ivla/ma'ovla. > > =20 > > I will create a BPFK page about this agreement. Please modify la > > camxes so that it as well as la jbovlaste conforms to it. > > =20 > > There is a concomitant problem that some fu'ivla/cmevla and > > experimental ma'ovla in la jbovlaste are now invalid. I remember that > > la gleki proposed adding an apostrophe between Cg and V. I don't agree > > to it because that may produce conflicts between some words, and > > transform some fu'ivla into lujvo. I would prefer giving them > > automatically "100000 down-votes" just like the inverse of official > > words, and notifying the creators of them of the reason. Any idea? > > =20 > > =20 > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "BPFK" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > =20 > > =20 > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "BPFK" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > =20 > =20 > =20 > -- =20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:bpfk-list+unsubscr= ibe@googlegroups.com). > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com (mailto:b= pfk-list@googlegroups.com). > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > =20 > =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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{'} is never omissible in the official dialect.
=20

On Friday, January 2, 2015 at = 3:46 PM, And Rosta wrote:

Under what circumstances is {'} om= issible?
It is phonetic/phonological omission, or only orthograph= ic omission?

Gleki Arxokuna, On 02/01/2015 16:07:=
I consider it a different spellin= g of {fortepi'ano} just like {influenza} and {influe'nza} are the same word= for me. And when i was adding {fortepiano} the results of the poll werent = known

2015-01-02 7:53 GMT-08:00 guskant <gusni.= kantu@gmail.com <mailto:gusni.k= antu@gmail.com>>:



Le samedi 3 janvier 2015 00:30:20 UTC+9, la gleki a =C3=A9crit = :

i proposed it for influ'enza and i alrea= dy added it.


You did thus expec= t the poll result, then why did you recently add "fortepiano" to la jbovlas= te?

In any case, you can "correct" the concern= ed words by hand, but didn't we talk about an automatic method?
<= br>
2015-01-02 6:03 GMT-08:00 guskant <gusni...@gmail.com>:

= The poll was closed on December 27, 2014. The winner is

<= /div>
2. disallow CgV in cmevla/fu'ivla/ma'ovla.
=
I will create a BPFK page about this agreement. = Please modify la
camxes so that it as well as la jbov= laste conforms to it.

There is a conco= mitant problem that some fu'ivla/cmevla and
experimen= tal ma'ovla in la jbovlaste are now invalid. I remember that
= la gleki proposed adding an apostrophe between Cg and V. I don't ag= ree
to it because that may produce conflicts between = some words, and
transform some fu'ivla into lujvo. I = would prefer giving them
automatically "100000 down-v= otes" just like the inverse of official
words, and no= tifying the creators of them of the reason. Any idea?

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