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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6si79355wif.0.2015.01.15.00.39.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::236; Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id h11so16062901wiw.3 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:39:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.20.177 with SMTP id o17mr10109722wie.64.1421311182951; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:39:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.86.200 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:39:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1605733.CVuPAarOUL@caracal> <54B66490.6070406@gmx.de> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:39:22 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53d5b4b2cdbf8050caccc27 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: i approve of this too. But how would this work for {V'V} cmavo? 2015-01-15 11:37 GMT+03:00 And Rosta : > In a more radical step, one could explore making iiV and uuV equivalent, > phonologically or morphophonologically, to i'V and u'V. > > --And. > On 14 Jan 2015 13:29, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: > >> 2015-01-14 16:08 GMT+03:00 And Rosta : >> >>> I suggest that be deemed, by a >>> general rule that I am not competent to formulate, orthographic variants of >>> . >>> >> >> I proposed using them as orthographical and phonemical variants of >> {tu'itr}, {nitci'on} etc.: >> http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Alta >> >> >> >> >>> >>> --And. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:44 PM, selpa'i wrote: >>> >>>> la .piier. cu cusku di'e >>>> >>>>> Which do you think is better: "piier" or "pi'er"? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would say {piièr}. 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But how would this work for {V'V} cmavo? 2015-01-15 11:37 GMT+03:00 And Rosta : > In a more radical step, one could explore making iiV and uuV equivalent, > phonologically or morphophonologically, to i'V and u'V. > > --And. > On 14 Jan 2015 13:29, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote= : > >> 2015-01-14 16:08 GMT+03:00 And Rosta : >> >>> I suggest that be deemed, by a >>> general rule that I am not competent to formulate, orthographic variant= s of >>> . >>> >> >> I proposed using them as orthographical and phonemical variants of >> {tu'itr}, {nitci'on} etc.: >> http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Alta >> >> >> >> >>> >>> --And. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:44 PM, selpa'i wrote: >>> >>>> la .piier. cu cusku di'e >>>> >>>>> Which do you think is better: "piier" or "pi'er"? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would say {pii=C3=A8r}. It sounds closer to the original than {pi'= =C3=A8r}, >>>> which has both an extra /h/ in the middle and lacks the /j/. >>>> >>>> mi'e la selpa'i mu'o >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "BPFK" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "BPFK" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "BPFK" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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i approve of this too. But how would this work for {V'= V} cmavo?

20= 15-01-15 11:37 GMT+03:00 And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>:<= br>

In a more radical step, on= e could explore making iiV and uuV equivalent, phonologically or morphophon= ologically, to i'V and u'V.

--And.

On 14 Jan 2015 13:29, "Gleki Arxokuna"= <gleki.= is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-14 16:08 GMT+03:00 And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>:
I suggest that <= tuitr, nitcion, pier, buenosaires> be deemed, by a general rule that I a= m not competent to formulate,=C2=A0orthographic variants of <tuuitr, nit= ciion, piier, buuenosaires> .

I proposed using them as orthographical and phonemical variants of {tu= 9;itr}, {nitci'on} etc.:
http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Alta

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--And.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at= 12:44 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
la .piier. cu cusku di'e
Which do you think is better: "piier" or "pi'er"?

I would say {pii=C3=A8r}. It sounds closer to the original than {pi'=C3= =A8r}, which has both an extra /h/ in the middle and lacks the /j/.

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o


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