Received: from mail-lb0-f192.google.com ([209.85.217.192]:34803) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YbQnt-00040q-Aw; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:43:56 -0700 Received: by lbvp9 with SMTP id p9sf11063041lbv.1; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:43:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=d0w/nIHv7rZjCxN+5b2tpX5ssd2DF79+ApYHnEqsOd4=; b=EutCneFUUB5HvfBbrZlthNarJryav88K6k6qcuASU5J1ksy7nlJOrPlabjgiFU1QCE 2pAQ/Rh8UQPBppernqxPAPTa/4GnyX+mFg1oWeO+3qmoTlH9YBMCBUeYdzTwvd83T3oB /Bd36pq61o+T9NqXJS4Qb5MQ4C5NhE4froGYi8V6C2wD1tl/K7+J7pEiEp8gkW/FzDk2 2LSkRPNDdWaZNS0Sa9bqSpLsNnZoEFzCKCRkoeneywHV4stU7buS3HhXVr2hekf4OmJa uUjNjw3iGup0cOATpwocO0F9LBCmPFBHb2Hs3XL9Wd6/jZX9jXW86ahl8a8L+gaiSWc+ oVng== X-Received: by 10.152.19.229 with SMTP id i5mr288426lae.22.1427449421917; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:43:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.44.136 with SMTP id e8ls391555lam.91.gmail; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:43:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.164.171 with SMTP id yr11mr4419859lab.4.1427449419392; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c8si292999wiw.1.2015.03.27.02.43.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([84.175.72.79]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0McVns-1Yt6B03VFw-00Hhbp for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:43:38 +0100 Message-ID: <5515264B.1030009@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:43:39 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Improvements to fragments in ilmentufa parser References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:yHvlkWqdjAlI64/TkI5gu3Tx/OeMyqn30lcPWnMry3DUeRoPhof ck24jBLQYFb/y23YirO40fNiMG4hyjfgTFmbOkxjt3NOzhmUAFwyx9T3G/IoW79HjTSTSPT bSpqli3jM+/BHCjJBf3Ny2W60ZrBgzoETGDcgOO9Phm98bPEDJeravLwe9WB69Jxt5qCGyl 6krHUoG6G3v5aeLihd9pA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1311 la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e > "joi" can't be a fragment though. The reason is that it would clash with > the sentence connective ".i joi". Fragment is a weird rule, I would > happily remove relative clauses, links and linkargs from it. I don't > think fragment "na" is used much either. I'm actually a big fan of fragments; I use {to be} and {to noi} a lot, and it's also nice when you want to add onto someone else's sentence, e.g. A: mi viska lo pendo B: be ma A: la .djan. Even fragment {na} is sort of semi-common as a slang thing; in the experimental grammar it was extended to allow multiple NA in a row as a fragment as well. I actually frequently miss a method to use a fragmental ?{to JOI SUMTI toi}, but sadly it would clash with {.i joi}, so I'm stuck with {to ri JOI SUMTI toi), which doesn't always work. I find fragments very useful for spontaneous human speech. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.