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1. {bu} is used after vowels to anaphorically reference LA/LE-sumti with
sumti tails that start with the same vowel.
2. {bu} is proposed by gejyspa in {nu bu} and {du'u bu} to reference sumti
that have sumti tails that start (or probably contain at main level) {nu}
or {du'u} abstractions.

This immediately raises a question: can a {nu bu} according to rule 1.
reference {lo nupre}? If not 2. is indeed a new rule.

3. {bu} is proposed to be used in mekso to reference certain symbols like
{.alfas. bu} for alpha. Probably it's about {me'o .alfas. bu} since we are
talking about formulae. In this case it doesn't conflict with 1. and 2. and
just adds this new third rule, namely, that inside {me'o} strings such
constructs as {abu}, {nu bu}, {.alfas. bu} get a new meaning strictly
defined in the dictionary.

4. Using {denpa bu} for "dot" without {me'o} can't fit into rules 1. and 2.
From rule 1. and 2. we can assume that it anaphorically references {LE/LA
denpa}. Neither using {.alfas. bu} without {me'o} can reference the symbol
alpha. Instead, it would reference {la .alfas.}.

5. Neither {uibu} can be used without {me'o} to denote smileys.

If {denpa bu} and {.alfas. bu} can be used without {me'o} to reference dots
and alpha symbols then a,e,i,o,u, nu,du'u are exclusions to this rule. And
in this case we aren't able to reference "a" as a symbol without {me'o}
since {abu} is always an anaphorical marker.

So my proposal is:
1. to always use {me'o} to reference symbols or to use fu'ivla for them
like {denpabu} and {slakabu}.
2. The letteral meanings of uibu, denpa bu, slaka bu are to be defined in
the dictionary.
3. {denpa bu} means {lo denpa} referenced anaphorically, it is close to
{le} explained here
<http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=%27%27%27le%27%27%27_as_an_anaphorical_particle>
or
ri'oi <http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ri'oi>. But even more correctly
would be to show two examples identical in meaning:

a) {lo denpa cu pendo mi .ije dy. xendo}
b) {lo denpa cu pendo mi .ije denpa bu xendo}

Clearly, {denpa bu prenu bu} would reference {lo denpa prenu} (no matter
how often one would need that).

{mi bu} would refer to {lo mi broda}.

{ca bu} would refer to {lo ca broda} or {i ca broda} and thus be similar to
{lo go'oi <http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/go'oi>}.

Interesting that in past people suggested using different {SOMETHING bu} to
mark keyboard keys. No wonder {a bu} was never suggested as a name of A
keyboard key because it's already taken by an anaphorical construct.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">1. {bu} is used after vowels to anaphorically reference LA=
/LE-sumti with sumti tails that start with the same vowel.<div>2. {bu} is p=
roposed by gejyspa in {nu bu} and {du&#39;u bu} to reference sumti that hav=
e sumti tails that start (or probably contain at main level) {nu} or {du=
9;u} abstractions.</div><div><br></div><div>This immediately raises a quest=
ion: can a {nu bu} according to rule 1. reference {lo nupre}? If not 2. is =
indeed a new rule.</div><div><br></div><div>3. {bu} is proposed to be used =
in mekso to reference certain symbols like {.alfas. bu} for alpha. Probably=
 it&#39;s about {me&#39;o .alfas. bu} since we are talking about formulae. =
In this case it doesn&#39;t conflict with 1. and 2. and just adds this new =
third rule, namely, that inside {me&#39;o} strings such constructs as {abu}=
, {nu bu}, {.alfas. bu} get a new meaning strictly defined in the dictionar=
y.</div><div><br></div><div>4. Using {denpa bu} for &quot;dot&quot; without=
 {me&#39;o} can&#39;t fit into rules 1. and 2. From rule 1. and 2. we can a=
ssume that it anaphorically references {LE/LA denpa}. Neither using {.alfas=
. bu} without {me&#39;o} can reference the symbol alpha. Instead, it would =
reference {la .alfas.}.</div><div><br></div><div>5. Neither {uibu} can be u=
sed without {me&#39;o} to denote smileys.</div><div><br></div><div>If {denp=
a bu} and {.alfas. bu} can be used without {me&#39;o} to reference dots and=
 alpha symbols then a,e,i,o,u, nu,du&#39;u are exclusions to this rule. And=
 in this case we aren&#39;t able to reference &quot;a&quot; as a symbol wit=
hout {me&#39;o} since {abu} is always an anaphorical marker.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>So my proposal is:<br></div><div>1. to always use {me&#39;o} to =
reference symbols or to use fu&#39;ivla for them like {denpabu} and {slakab=
u}.</div><div>2. The letteral meanings of uibu, denpa bu, slaka bu are to b=
e defined in the dictionary.</div><div>3. {denpa bu} means {lo denpa} refer=
enced anaphorically, it is close to {le} explained <a href=3D"http://mw.loj=
ban.org/index.php?title=3D%27%27%27le%27%27%27_as_an_anaphorical_particle" =
target=3D"_blank">here</a>=C2=A0or <a href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/d=
ict/ri&#39;oi" target=3D"_blank">ri&#39;oi</a>. But even more correctly wou=
ld be to show two examples identical in meaning:</div><div><br></div><div>a=
) {lo denpa cu pendo mi .ije dy. xendo}</div><div>b)=C2=A0{lo denpa cu pend=
o mi .ije denpa bu xendo}</div><div><br></div><div>Clearly, {denpa bu prenu=
 bu} would reference {lo denpa prenu} (no matter how often one would need t=
hat).</div><div><br></div><div>{mi bu} would refer to {lo mi broda}.</div><=
div><br></div><div>{ca bu} would refer to {lo ca broda} or {i ca broda} and=
 thus be similar to {lo <a href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/go&#39;=
oi">go&#39;oi</a>}.</div><div><br></div><div>Interesting that in past peopl=
e suggested using different {SOMETHING bu} to mark keyboard keys. No wonder=
 {a bu} was never suggested as a name of A keyboard key because it&#39;s al=
ready taken by an anaphorical construct.</div></div>

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