Received: from mail-wg0-f59.google.com ([74.125.82.59]:34730) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YfGy9-0004s6-LU; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:19 -0700 Received: by wggy19 with SMTP id y19sf13270995wgg.1; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=5n7MxE7Lc8rruNjfDXTMF3Tr30ejWVeZsMZ1s65Dp8I=; b=flSwDbKt56QYedWAPUIl0RAwCgEQWZUuFnF0yrsXoUtAk10eKY3TkO0INLCaJox+Jb Z9HuK0PyaOPimt8+P+DvTsR0rxfJRt4fxCW3/XAYn6N9PZxnNnnATVmV6ZgBa6JLuV1s T/9nHq5ZopPeMLmDUt5+bbcHYRWtLDtcRzDGZiYc67gLWV0cdmGbTgToe0FDnyKEOcOa f5OU3FR8j+r1+90FVWb2CLA6XviDqYDxAifGX/jszsgIDgGljrXeR1V1vlVH+rlez3l2 vsEdIJ86F3iatZRdGBxdsU9LMq3nMxO+x1EbG2fbvRSe5U/YjRLMGSayqXVvEl67iiMI Jx+A== X-Received: by 10.152.43.200 with SMTP id y8mr172619lal.41.1428364930659; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.197.97 with SMTP id it1ls628683lac.1.gmail; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.130.71 with SMTP id oc7mr1836647lbb.23.1428364930121; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.17.21]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec7si320459wib.3.2015.04.06.17.02.10 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.21; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([84.175.64.169]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlqNY-1ZEbib2tVo-00ZP9C for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 02:02:09 +0200 Message-ID: <55231E87.1040600@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 02:02:15 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Proposal: sumti must always be tagged with "tag" even if it's elidible. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5YNi6iO99fCmop6OCXh/89tLA3LI8dcyc0GLPLvPXgw7TQBZUcq suyhJMKnLsbWp6MXWiMW9DdFzxXxp4gWcAzAXxddc/ggSJDk6YmUdB5MxYRnEUIUA4yndhV X3Z8Crbx+ee/8V5MGXPnoh/zUkwzDCCILTyP9Wy0PRufdOm5vjYL10Y1TEcwxAUqaAL5awD 0XrVhHc/HsCQoaMvaX0gA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1150 la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e > What does the SOI term mean? Is there a new proposed meaning for "soi"? > Is it something like "lo poi'i"? See: http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_soi > BTW, are there any plans to get rid of SA, or are people still in love > with it? It makes the grammar so much harder to read. Almost all uses of {sa} are in {sa .i}, so maybe we could simplify {sa} by making it just remove the current sentence entirely. Another option would be to make SA+sentence or SA+term or maybe SA+word a free modifier (I'm not sure how exactly that would play out though). In any case, I agree that SA adds a lot of annoying complexity to the grammar (even though it's kind of a nice mechanism to have). mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.