Received: from mail-wg0-f60.google.com ([74.125.82.60]:33779) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Ydv6e-0001Ca-CW; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:35 -0700 Received: by wggz12 with SMTP id z12sf36816029wgg.0; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=bY9MKpB4trgug4HOLlHLoN1tXJu8mug0TWAmJ1/K7Vg=; b=Is6ue1KUNUKeICSHgJjchl3eTt6F6rGBDAMLyRz2sU6pIiIc3kkG94gT2rxd1rC1bK RgiGoIrQlXOCX8TUumuTppU5CT8IQ0ntc7pzmd8vgxz/LxUSRL30/PNDgKILTm9Dgha9 4wfXlmaxvxjjkltEps3ilxiUyyXg55vRjIn1nvwPzQqSeqziol5bIHgUWSVxiLLOvMxi VrOdbRHCCxYoYIQ0PhIB50aEuStn+kgEutOKppLcE/vp9yiYLI8AWm9JcLNZWdiXSx1E edu49411714fkrw7b0D/FPl0sFtyFHyfvcnF1m/iRincuYrcw3I5N/jAoHmv6AdQbvjd fR7g== X-Received: by 10.181.28.3 with SMTP id jk3mr177889wid.13.1428042561478; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.7.129 with SMTP id j1ls59105wia.50.gmail; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.85.129 with SMTP id h1mr230264wiz.6.1428042561137; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c8si217487wiw.1.2015.04.02.23.29.21 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a; Received: by wiaa2 with SMTP id a2so129839698wia.0 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.173.199 with SMTP id bm7mr1911650wjc.76.1428042560997; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:29:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.240.197 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:29:00 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: [bpfk] On shutting down English in camxes To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122f074928cf10512cc113e X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3621 --089e0122f074928cf10512cc113e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I had to change to English to discuss PEG because it's impossible to do that in Lojban. I could have invented something on the fly but wouldn't have been understood. E.g. how do we say "elidible"? Seems like it's {jai se curmi fai lo ka se kunti} although we can think of it as of {ka'e kunti} Then the variable "GEhU_elidible" would become "mahoi_GEhU_poi_kahe_kunti" or "cmavo_mahoi_GEhU_poi_kahe_kunti" ? Besides, many variables have names that are impossible to utter or remember (like bridi_tail_t1). We need to extract all necessary elements from e.g. here: https://github.com/Ilmen-vodhr/ilmentufa/blob/master/camxes-exp.js.peg , put them into a table, e.g. in the wiki and then start translating them. "/" and "(",")" operators should also be possible to say in Lojban. After that we can create a new PEG which would produce the same trees but which will have purely Lojbanic names of nodes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e0122f074928cf10512cc113e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had to change to English to discuss PEG because it's= impossible to do that in Lojban.

I could have invented = something on the fly but wouldn't have been understood.
E.g. = how do we say "elidible"?
Seems like it's {jai se c= urmi fai lo ka se kunti} although we can think of it as of {ka'e kunti}=

Then the variable "GEhU_elidible" would= become "mahoi_GEhU_poi_kahe_kunti" or "cmavo_mahoi_GEhU_poi= _kahe_kunti"=C2=A0?

Besides, many variab= les have names that are impossible to utter or remember (like bridi_tail_t1= ).

We need to extract all necessary elements= from e.g. here:

, put them = into a table, e.g. in the wiki and then start translating them.
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"/" and "(",")" operators shoul= d also be possible to say in Lojban.

After that we= can create a new PEG which would produce the same trees but which will hav= e purely Lojbanic names of nodes.


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