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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec7si159972wib.3.2015.04.03.11.36.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d; Received: by mail-wi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id n10so1455738wiu.1 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:36:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.195.12.196 with SMTP id es4mr7098439wjd.35.1428086202580; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:36:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.240.197 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:36:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87a8631e-1155-4a74-a1c4-47c79a5fe96f@googlegroups.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 21:36:22 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] selma'o ZEhEI and PEG To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb04c94d046100512d63adc X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 6774 --047d7bb04c94d046100512d63adc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-04-03 21:32 GMT+03:00 Stela Selckiku : > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can we rewrite how {zei} works and postulate that the last part of words >> glued together with {zei} determines its grammar? >> Thus, {panpi zei coi} will become a vocative but {coi zei panpi} will be >> a brivla as well as {broda zei brode zei panpi}? >> This will eliminate at least one usage of {ze'ei}. >> >> I'm not sure what {coi zei coi} could mean as a brivla and what would it >> be its place structure. >> >> > > .ie sai! bu'o .i .au sai! .cekitaujaus. zei basti fa zo zei zo ze'ei .i > milxe po'o lo ka plixau fa lo cmavo poi gasnu lo nu lo cmavo cu binxo lo > brivla .i .ei lo clamau po'u zo ze'ei gasnu lo cizra po'u lo nu brivlagau > lo cmavo .i .ei .au zo zei se pilno fi lo plixaumau pe'i nu gerna stura > valsi zbasu .i sutra tavla nitcu va'o .i pavyslaka .au sai! ke'u mu'o > pe'i na srana la cekitajaus i va'o ri lo smuni cu cenba ge'esai i ku'i ba'e mi na stidi lo nu lo smuni be lu sa'ei zei valsi li'u mu'a noi pu se pilno cu cenba i mi stidi lo nu PEG cu cenba i ju'o lu coi zei coi li'u a lo simsa pu noroi se pilno i mutce frica la cekitaujaus ku noi fi'o jinvi mi ka'e daspo le bangu i mi ku'i djica lo nu PEG zenba lo ka ge vlipa gi banzu sampu > mi'e la stela selckiku > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. 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2015-04-03 21:32 GMT+03:00 Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>= :


On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12= :50 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>= wrote:
Can we rewrite how {zei} works= and postulate that the last part of words glued together with {zei} determ= ines its grammar?
Thus, {panpi zei coi} will become a vocative but {coi= zei panpi} will be a brivla as well as {broda zei brode zei panpi}?
<= div>This will eliminate at least one usage of {ze'ei}.

I'm not sure what {coi zei coi} could mean as a brivla and wha= t would it be its place structure.


.ie sai! bu'o .i .au sai! .cekitaujaus. zei basti fa= zo zei zo ze'ei .i milxe po'o lo ka plixau fa lo cmavo poi gasnu l= o nu lo cmavo cu binxo lo brivla .i .ei lo clamau po'u zo ze'ei gas= nu lo cizra po'u lo nu brivlagau lo cmavo .i .ei .au zo zei se pilno fi= lo plixaumau pe'i nu gerna stura valsi zbasu .i sutra tavla nitcu va&#= 39;o .i pavyslaka .au sai! ke'u mu'o

pe'i na srana la cekitajaus
i va'o ri lo smuni cu cenba ge'esai

i ku'i ba'e mi na stidi lo nu lo smuni be lu sa'ei zei v= alsi li'u mu'a noi pu se pilno cu cenba

i = mi stidi lo nu PEG cu cenba
i ju'o lu coi zei coi li'u a = lo simsa pu noroi se pilno=C2=A0

i mutce frica la = cekitaujaus ku noi fi'o jinvi mi ka'e daspo le bangu

=
i mi=C2=A0ku'i=C2=A0djica lo nu PEG zenba lo ka ge vlipa gi = banzu sampu



=
mi'e la stela selckiku

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