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Subject: Re: [bpfk] "bridi_tail = ... bridi_tail" is wrong imo
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Currently all PEGs have something like this:
>
> bridi_tail = bridi_tail_1 (gihek KE_clause free* bridi_tail KEhE_elidible
> free* tail_terms)?
>
> I think this is wrong. In
> {klama gi'e citka} both {klama} and {citka} should be equal however here
> we see that {klama} is bridi_tail_1 whereas {citka} starts with bridi_tail.
>

That's in order to get right grouping.

I think it should be something like
> bridi_tail = bridi_tail_1 (gihek KE_clause bridi_tail_1)* KEhE_elidible
> tail_terms*
>

The usual interpretation is that repeating items group left (because there
is another way to get right-grouping, but no way to get left-grouping with
PEG).

There are much more such racial prejudice against certain rules in PEG.
> But what is your opinion on this one in particular?
>

It's all about grouping. Compare for example with bridi_tail_1, which is
left-grouping. If you disallow the A = B A trick and replace it with A =
B+, then you have to indicate grouping in some other way, since there's no
way of knowing whether "B B B" should be "B (B B)" or "(B B) B".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.n=
ame@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Currently all PEGs have something like this:</div><div><br=
>bridi_tail =3D bridi_tail_1 (gihek KE_clause free* bridi_tail KEhE_elidibl=
e free* tail_terms)?</div><div><br></div><div>I think this is wrong. In</di=
v><div>{klama gi&#39;e citka} both {klama} and {citka} should be equal howe=
ver here we see that {klama} is bridi_tail_1 whereas {citka} starts with br=
idi_tail.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That&#39;s in order t=
o get right grouping.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think it should be something like</div><div>bri=
di_tail =3D bridi_tail_1 (gihek=C2=A0KE_clause=C2=A0bridi_tail_1)* KEhE_eli=
dible tail_terms*</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The usual int=
erpretation is that repeating items group left (because there is another wa=
y to get right-grouping, but no way to get left-grouping with PEG).</div><d=
iv><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>There are=
 much more such racial prejudice against certain rules in PEG.</div><div>Bu=
t what is your opinion on this one in particular?</div></div></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>It&#39;s all about grouping. Compare for example with br=
idi_tail_1, which is left-grouping. If you disallow the A =3D B A trick and=
 replace it with A =3D B+, then you have to indicate grouping in some other=
 way, since there&#39;s no way of knowing whether &quot;B B B&quot; should =
be &quot;B (B B)&quot; or &quot;(B B) B&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&=
#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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