Received: from mail-la0-f55.google.com ([209.85.215.55]:34133) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YgMSq-0005L1-SY; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:31 -0700 Received: by lamq1 with SMTP id q1sf830955lam.1; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=MMGhnw+ubqBsjschwTMp/2cn00p1pw5PdVSQ3qcqOHM=; b=Zguyh6Ko8DOgYxNQO4WLzBgu/fvm2WFoVk7qWN3llTowMDn+aY2bbjnBmBzAKb9sq9 shePkeq7Pxwb38Sc/ZlkR19X8r3cuyXi1NwlMp4xZphweL7nCy1WU2EzFJmQNmzoLKJt 0hGbAWG9+hr2ijKQ0ZZVGkr+HfEiT+pIFgDObwpTtUaULLcYy4YxlnMC2zsQPyiGaG8T Ob2wTNBhndVqeBSJ4vKE9uOYiLf72WjpsSKfR5xyNezr7NSoDj9obZ/WIuZbtcprZU8q 57xYX0uK7kM7E3dc+Ek+zQElBsesfmbNSWTgLnOyiq+vt8At37z2Z9KHfTgSC0HyOMGd b7Xw== X-Received: by 10.152.22.130 with SMTP id d2mr39313laf.7.1428624381401; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.5.228 with SMTP id v4ls353960lav.26.gmail; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.19.67 with SMTP id c3mr33887lae.7.1428624379494; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sf8si21778wic.2.2015.04.09.17.06.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::229; Received: by mail-wi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id js5so5165872wid.1 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.84.201 with SMTP id b9mr54810wiz.49.1428624379412; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.56.18 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <166E1503C5E24261B88E4F7B41741A53@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 21:06:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] te sumti detection using PEG From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428750a704e905135388ba X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 4096 --f46d04428750a704e905135388ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > 2015-04-08 18:15 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka : > >> doesn't interact with SE/GIhE/BE/JAI, > > > Excuse me but how does an analyser have to deal with jai1 and jai2? > jai1: > do jai cinri mi > jai2: > mi jai gau zgana ti > > What specifically should such an analyser show? > > Also I don't understand how to treat SE. Isn't {se broda} just a new > brivla semantically? > > "se broda", "jai broda", "jai gau broda", "broda be ko'a" are all just new brivla, but the place structure of this new brivla can be obtained directly from the place structure of "broda", so presumably a semantic analyser has to know, for example, that the fai-place of "jai gau broda" corresponds to the x1 place of "broda", the x1 of "se broda" corresponds to the x2 of "broda", and so on. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d04428750a704e905135388ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name= @gmail.com> wrote:
2015-04-08 18:15 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com>:
doesn= 9;t interact with SE/GIhE/BE/JAI,

Excuse me bu= t how does an analyser have to deal with jai1 and jai2?
jai1:
do jai = cinri mi
jai2:
mi jai gau zgana ti

What specifically should su= ch an analyser show?

Also I don'= ;t understand how to treat SE. Isn't {se broda} just a new brivla seman= tically?

"se broda", "jai broda= ", "jai gau broda", "broda be ko'a" are all ju= st new brivla, but the place structure of this new brivla can be obtained d= irectly from the place structure of "broda", so presumably a sema= ntic analyser has to know, for example, that the fai-place of "jai gau= broda" corresponds to the x1 place of "broda", the x1 of &q= uot;se broda" corresponds to the x2 of "broda", and so on.

mu'= o mi'e xorxes

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