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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x1si752654igb.2.2015.05.14.04.50.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 May 2015 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ZujUdbLG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:117 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=B1-hNj924W8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=h1PgugrvaO0A:10 a=F72xNmQ8FV90vVrPKboA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 45.37.90.97 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [45.37.90.97] ([45.37.90.97:39156] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 8A/7B-08210-9EB84555; Thu, 14 May 2015 07:50:01 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B427A5C1 for ; Thu, 14 May 2015 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] to'e and causation sumtcita compounds Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 07:49:56 -0400 Message-ID: <28084761.UZUgd0Fhlt@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-49-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <49b0aba3-35fe-4edc-baed-9fe82afda84c@googlegroups.com> References: <49b0aba3-35fe-4edc-baed-9fe82afda84c@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1466 On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 00:43:17 guskant wrote: > 2-1-1. {ki'u} in the scope of {naku}. > {naku mi sipna ki'u lo nu do cladu} > "I sleep because of your loud noise" is false. > It may signify: > -1. "The reason for my sleeping is not your loud noise," [1] or, > -2. "I don't sleep; if I were sleeping, the reason for my sleeping would = be > your loud noise." > Both interpretations are unusual. #1 makes more sense, but the sentence doesn't imply that I sleep or that I= =20 don't sleep. > 2-1-2. {to'eki'u} in the scope of {naku}. > {naku mi sipna to'eki'u lo nu do cladu} > "I sleep prevented by your loud noise" is false. > It may signify: > -1. "Something that prevents my sleeping is not your loud noise," [2] or, > -2. "Your loud noise prevents me from sleeping, and 'I sleep' is false." > Both interpretations are reasonable. #1 is {ki'u na'ebo lo nu do cladu kei naku mi sipna}. #2 is {ki'u lo nu do= =20 cladu kei naku mi sipna}.=20 Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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