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See also makcu, verba. >> >> Proposed: {cifnu} =3D x1 is an infant, baby, young offspring of species = x2. >> |>>> Not necessarily helpless. See also makcu, verba, panzi. >> >> Reason: a discussion >> shows that >> one shouldn't paid attention to "infant", "helpless" and "infantile" wor= ds. >> Separate words for "altricial/precocial", stages of development like >> larvae, imago etc. and for immature/mature are to be invented instead. >> > > Sounds reasonable. Is there a way to implement this while keeping the > original wording available for reference? Many gismu definitions need > improvement, but we probably want to keep the original wording safe > somewhere as a historical record. > Technically issue 131 says that no definition can be edited since otherwise the concept of voting becomes useless. This means that definitions entered by "officialdata" can't be changed since this user is not a human. In case some definitions are already edited we will be able to reupload them. The issue also states that one must be able to export all definition from a given user, "officialdata" in this case. When JVS API is available we will be able to create apps that are able to interact with it thus implementing JVS 2.0 as we want it. > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. 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= 2015-05-31 15:29 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:


On Sun= , May 31, 2015 at 9:09 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Now= : {cifnu} =3D x1 is an infant/baby [helpless through youth/incomplete devel= opment] of species x2. |>>> Also infantile.=C2=A0 See also makcu, = verba.

Proposed:=C2=A0{cifnu} =3D x1 is an infant, baby,= young offspring of species x2. |>>> Not necessarily helpless. See= also makcu, verba,=C2=A0panzi.

Reason: a discussion=C2=A0shows that one shouldn't paid attention to &= quot;infant", "helpless" and "infantile" words. Se= parate words for "altricial/precocial", stages of development lik= e larvae, imago etc. and for immature/mature are to be invented instead.

Sounds reasonable. Is ther= e a way to implement this while keeping the original wording available for = reference? Many gismu definitions need improvement, but we probably want to= keep the original wording safe somewhere as a historical record.

Technically issue 131=C2=A0says that no = definition can be edited since otherwise the concept of voting becomes usel= ess.
This means that definitions entered by "officialdata&qu= ot; can't be changed since this user is not a human. In case =C2=A0some= definitions are already edited we will be able to reupload them. The issue= also states that one must be able to export all definition from a given us= er, "officialdata" in this case.
When JVS API is availa= ble we will be able to create apps that are able to interact with it thus i= mplementing JVS 2.0 as we want it.

=C2=A0
mu'o mi'e xorxes

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