Received: from mail-ig0-f188.google.com ([209.85.213.188]:33883) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2XVO-0005vj-LZ; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:20:55 -0700 Received: by igdj8 with SMTP id j8sf10048968igd.1; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:20:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=1gmBAO/ZWBoQPWKrCerDkzeNjDBJ7yHg2/k4g1Hp0hg=; b=tg5+5kTAZuWkf+fcjOPyQrLWnAKmyQJUV0+/V6qEzuX+Qf0rjDEnlNhVQP8KF1FmxN wQAagFszSI4WD9DSYo7pee0WefmOW9Ara72NBUeGfkI4y+aXiL7/VVyjibO9tAWzzsLv xn3jA8YHG/7XJDfXr3yCiXzAd40usf36kowB/g3tkkStqldvPWmHV/3eGrC+3RIxUc63 SyZ7DMJxv0AgezWNEIy8FAfH8qpd7ifki0E3uz8/zl4vT3Ddngw/0I+IjmlkESdS/xCu DCzkFC8W/HkJpYPvy8sZ3fNDpxp5/7mLdKyr+Kuf/21wOtmztoGz3Q+3mKmV0biBnZiW MkIw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=1gmBAO/ZWBoQPWKrCerDkzeNjDBJ7yHg2/k4g1Hp0hg=; b=S4dStIPGZYpx7EkJBXKHr5ibgs148NLySQHgdOYi4BfUD0kuZVAgEdCaL3tmRRBdtd ZIl5E8S4AYkoJr7DD8I9UCrzjiEbDIcP3lJlQ32o+u6xHQQwFUUBKPV7xszFibJt4f4h OcskAmsjVaV5toKbkW7GXQvIQ4sx9fgmyr/kgJ0AUT+s2xqlPkoOcfL3vUuHYPW9QZ13 oKMymVfubP2vknMcAt/NueUdf/1krsxIGT+5/5GdcG+9go6ODBg4rDQDSpapGG3zQmm0 xVdbVltk8eJeuD1CgmVhA/Bkb6VWavDBj3o2n2ib96agHihbyTOD1N1TehOcFoJ2cNTW j4Cw== X-Received: by 10.50.64.179 with SMTP id p19mr57094igs.6.1433910040132; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:20:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.142.106 with SMTP id rv10ls478829igb.29.gmail; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.12.66 with SMTP id w2mr56362igb.11.1433910039940; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: spheniscine@gmail.com To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <69108030-6005-444c-830a-26aac6447cbc@googlegroups.com> <983f5a31-9fc4-426b-9565-a315d23b6d84@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: Grammar of letterals and numerals in {li} MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_283_83142152.1433910039264" X-Original-Sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 4105 ------=_Part_283_83142152.1433910039264 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_284_1505778114.1433910039264" ------=_Part_284_1505778114.1433910039264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > I guess I don't really see the many problems. I have fallen, and seen > others fall, into the "abu za'u re'u cusku" trap and similar traps many > times. I don't recall seeing things like "li 827266128281627362816Z" or > even like "li R2D2" much in use. > It isn't about how common it is; it is that your proposal will make it such that there aren't any good solutions for arbitrary character strings anymore. Many established and proposed conventions (jo'au*, my proposed date system, Pierre's coordinate system) also depend on arbitrary character strings, often heavy in digits. * {jo'au}, under my halfway proposal, could be patched by using {mo'e me'o cylyly pa pi'e pa jo'au} > > Having to decide when digits can be mixed with letters and when they can't > would introduce more usage difficulties in my opinion. I just don't see > lerfu-strings being used that much, let alone ones containing digits. > LI...LOhO is the only exception; I don't see what's so difficult to grasp about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_284_1505778114.1433910039264 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I guess I don't really see the man= y problems. I have fallen, and seen others fall, into the "abu za'u re'u cu= sku" trap and similar traps many times. I don't recall seeing things like "= li 827266128281627362816Z" or even like "li R2D2" much in use. 
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It isn't about how common it is= ; it is that your proposal will make it such that there aren't any good sol= utions for arbitrary character strings anymore. Many established and propos= ed conventions (jo'au*, my proposed date system, Pierre's coordinate system= )  also depend on arbitrary character strings, often heavy in digits.<= /div>

* {jo'au}, under my halfway proposal, could be pat= ched by using {mo'e me'o cylyly pa pi'e pa jo'au}
 

Having to decide when digits can be mixed wi= th letters and when they can't would introduce more usage difficulties in m= y opinion. I just don't see lerfu-strings being used that much, let alone o= nes containing digits.

LI= ...LOhO is the only exception; I don't see what's so difficult to grasp abo= ut that. 

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