Received: from mail-la0-f56.google.com ([209.85.215.56]:32939) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2nLi-0007JV-Ll; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:57 -0700 Received: by lams18 with SMTP id s18sf19633671lam.0; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=EJvpxXOHE2a6vbgHfwPqvvs+/4dI1ihQd6FnwhMkblE=; b=gMY+vptECZ6htUrgBeecsHcO12XmSiB5HLHdPlnom0wU8r0VbwXRYVZqqg2i+b3Hk+ iYXeSRf9xDtI8wfrQnUpBIkN4WAO6rGYaUXWn+efpvMLBcIVt10GkMqzXm/GRoUE1TGO 2BnEZpGKt4wAZAVoO8KIlkH+bxmRGjTZ912dvXXKuhKHpCh7P/XxuWEGcP00c8knbAUo ggwkZ1n6AFdITaUfyd0il1C6oVVgTr4XCJytdyPunTYdkeRfKEV3fguvAujiRWAEamAY xLuQhkbfJaSvN6SDG+H8uTaAcQWhwVz2tgwS6VhprZEuNOfY7MKbEbl3xfJs0Kf94DPZ 9Qlw== X-Received: by 10.152.244.131 with SMTP id xg3mr89841lac.0.1433970943159; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.36.169 with SMTP id r9ls294004laj.86.gmail; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.142.67 with SMTP id ru3mr4700914lbb.1.1433970942449; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x244.google.com (mail-wg0-x244.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::244]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9si287587wiz.3.2015.06.10.14.15.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::244 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::244; Received: by mail-wg0-x244.google.com with SMTP id y19so7390111wgg.0 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.103.2 with SMTP id fs2mr9873516wjb.151.1433970942322; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.17 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <69108030-6005-444c-830a-26aac6447cbc@googlegroups.com> <983f5a31-9fc4-426b-9565-a315d23b6d84@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:15:42 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: Grammar of letterals and numerals in {li} From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d84a8a2ac1a05183060f2 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::244 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 4070 --089e010d84a8a2ac1a05183060f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:10 AM, wrote: > The problems with pabu / pa'y are: > > - They almost double the length of all character strings that are > heavy in digits, e.g. my date system and Pierre's coordinate system. > > I think dates and coordinates shouldn't be mere strings of characters, since the numbers within them have meaning as numbers. The parser should be able to identify those numbers as numbers. Guskant's system makes more sense for those. > > - As for numeral/number distinction... the problem is that that very > distinction is often hazy. Take for example the name of the game > TIS-100 ; do those numbers > actually mean "one hundred", or are they just an arbitrary string of > numerals? > > Is it pronounced "one hundred" or "one zero zero"? It could mean "eight" even, given the topic. What about the name "7-Eleven"? I think names are a different topic, though. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e010d84a8a2ac1a05183060f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:10 AM, <spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem= s with pabu / pa'y are:
  • = They almost double the length of all character strings that are heavy in di= gits, e.g. my date system and Pierre's coordinate system.
I think dates and coordinates shouldn'= t be mere strings of characters, since the numbers within them have meaning= as numbers. The parser should be able to identify those numbers as numbers= . Guskant's system makes more sense for those.
  • As for numeral/number distinction... the problem is that that very dist= inction is often hazy. Take for example the name of the game=C2=A0TIS-100; do = those numbers actually mean "one hundred", or are they just an ar= bitrary string of numerals?
I= s it pronounced "one hundred" or "one zero zero"? It co= uld mean "eight" even, given the topic. What about the name "= ;7-Eleven"? I think names are a different topic, though.
mu'o mi'e xorxes

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