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I= =20 >> heven't bothered to think what it should be replaced with, since I'd lik= e=20 >> SA out of the grammar altogether, but it probably should be some sort of= =20 >> sa_clause_no_pre added to erasable_clause. >> > > Actually, it just hast to be replaced with "SA spaces?", but SA needs to= =20 > be rethought anyway. > > Additional changes needed to clean up:=20 > > - remove "intro_si_clause" which is no longer needed because now an=20 > initial si_clause gets absorbed by what follows. With intro_si_clause=20 > there, the new zei-words won't be able to start a text.=20 > > - add "si_clause?" either before or inside "faho_clause", so that a final= =20 > word can be deleted without replacing it with anything. If we want "broda= =20 > zei fa'o" to work as expected though, this will probably require some mor= e=20 > tinkering.=20 > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > la zantufa no'u lo cipra genturfa'i be fi'e mi zo'u mi mo'u stika tu'a zo SI e zo zei tezu'e lo nu panra lo se stidi be la=20 xorxes to zoi zoi=20 http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.12.html zoi .i ku'i sa'u ji'a mi jmina zoi zoi=20 ZO spaces? any_word spaces? zoi jo'u zoi zoi=20 !LOhU !ZO=20 zoi=20 la'o zoi pre_zei_bu zoi di'e=20 .i zoizoi pre_zei_bu =3D expr:(( BRIVLA / ZO spaces? any_word spaces? / !BU !LOhU !ZO= =20 !SI !SA !SU !FAhO CMAVO) spaces?) {return _node("pre_zei_bu", expr); } zoi .ija'ela'edi'u la zantufa xi pipare cu se steci la'e di'e .i tu'e ma'oi SI cmima la'o zoi pre_clause zoi .ije zo zei cmima ma'oi SI (to zo ze'ei ji'a co'e .i ku'i ca co'u sarcu ki'u lo= =20 nu zo zei ka'e basti zo ze'ei toi) .ije lu zo SI li'u cu pu je ca ji'a sumti .ije pi ro lu zo valsi SI li'u cu pu je ca ji'a se turni zo SI .ije lo du'e mei be zo SI cu na gendra (to dunli la camxes gi'e frica la=20 ilmentufa zei camxes toi) .ije lo'u SI bu le'u cu pu je ca ji'a na gendra .ije lu lo'u SI le'u li'u cu se turni zo lo'u tu'u .i do ge'i tugni mi lo du'u jmina de'u noi srana zo zo jo'u zo lo'u=20 gi stidi lo drata sidbo mu'o mi'e la guskant --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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Le samedi 25 avril 2015 19:42:39 UTC, xorxes a =C3=A9crit :


On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADa= s <jjlla...@gmail.com> wrote:

You= also need to remove SA_clause from si_clause for the same reason. I heven'= t bothered to think what it should be replaced with, since I'd like SA out = of the grammar altogether, but it probably should be some sort of sa_clause= _no_pre added to erasable_clause.
=
Actually, it just hast to be replaced with "SA spaces?", but= SA needs to be rethought anyway.

Additional chang= es needed to clean up: 

- remove "intro_si_cl= ause" which is no longer needed because now an initial si_clause gets absor= bed by what follows. With intro_si_clause there, the new zei-words won't be= able to start a text. 

- add "si_clause?= " either before or inside "faho_clause", so that a final word can be delete= d without replacing it with anything. If we want "broda zei fa'o" to work a= s expected though, this will probably require some more tinkering. 

mu'o mi'e xorxes


 la zantufa no'u lo cipra genturfa= 'i be fi'e mi zo'u
mi mo'u stika tu'a zo SI e zo zei tezu'e lo nu= panra lo se stidi be la xorxes
to zoi zoi 

http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.12.html
<= br>
zoi
.i ku'i sa'u ji'a mi jmina zoi zoi 
<= div>
ZO spaces? any_word spaces?

zoi= jo'u zoi zoi 

!LOhU !ZO 

=
zoi 
la'o zoi pre_zei_bu zoi di'e 
.i zoizoi

pre_zei_bu =3D expr:(( BRIVLA / ZO spac= es? any_word spaces? / !BU !LOhU !ZO !SI !SA !SU !FAhO CMAVO) spaces?) {ret= urn _node("pre_zei_bu", expr); }

zoi
.ija'ela'edi'u la zantufa xi pipare cu se steci la'e di'e .i tu= 'e

ma'oi SI cmima la'o zoi pre_clause zoi .ije
zo zei cmima ma'oi SI (to zo ze'ei ji'a co'e .i ku'i ca co'u sarcu k= i'u lo nu zo zei ka'e basti zo ze'ei toi) .ije
lu zo SI li'u cu p= u je ca ji'a sumti .ije
pi ro lu zo valsi SI li'u cu pu je ca ji'= a se turni zo SI .ije
lo du'e mei be zo SI cu na gendra (to dunli= la camxes gi'e frica la ilmentufa zei camxes toi) .ije
lo'u SI b= u le'u cu pu je ca ji'a na gendra .ije
lu lo'u SI le'u li'u cu se= turni zo lo'u

tu'u

.i do= ge'i tugni mi lo du'u jmina de'u noi srana zo zo jo'u zo lo'u 
<= div>gi stidi lo drata sidbo

mu'o mi'e la guskant

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