Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:57:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [bpfk] Re: Alternatives to {bo} in {i ... bo}?
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Le mardi 7 juillet 2015 04:38:01 UTC, Pierre Abbat a =C3=A9crit :
>
> Two bridi can be connected by {i SUMTCITA bo}. {bo} has two effects: it=
=20
> prevents an immediately following sumti from being taken as the object of=
=20
> the=20
> preposition, and it groups the bridi more tightly and right-associatively=
=20
> than=20
> surrounding bridi connected by just {i}. One may want left-association:=
=20
>
> lo filso cu lacpu lo mamta bakni lo carce .icabo lo cifybakni cu pinfu=20
> .itezu'ebo facki lo jei la .iaves. kau gasnu lo nunbilma=20
>
> (This is an abbreviated version of 1 Samuel 6:7-9.) Is there a way to=20
> connect=20
> three or more bridi with prepositions without forcing right association?=
=20
>
> Pierre=20
> --=20
> li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa=20
>
>

{tu'e tu'u} structure will help.

http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes.html

bare {i SUMTCITA bo}:
([broda VAU] [i ca bo {brode VAU} {i <te zu'e> bo <brodo VAU>}])

with {tu'e tu'u}:
([tu'e {<broda VAU> <i ca bo (=C2=B9brode VAU=C2=B9)>} tu'u] [i {te zu'e} b=
o {brodo=20
VAU}])


iku'i e'uru'e=20
I would rather simply add "jo'au zantufa xi pire", because this parser=20
supports left-association of BO (though {ku} or {cu} become necessary after=
=20
{la CMEVLA} because it supports also cmevla as tanru unit):

http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.2.html

([CU {broda VAU}] [i ca bo {CU <brode VAU>}] [i {te zu'e} bo {CU <brodo=20
VAU>}])
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>Le mardi 7 juillet 2015 04:38:01 UTC, Pierre Abbat=
 a =C3=A9crit&nbsp;:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;ma=
rgin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Two bridi =
can be connected by {i SUMTCITA bo}. {bo} has two effects: it=20
<br>prevents an immediately following sumti from being taken as the object =
of the=20
<br>preposition, and it groups the bridi more tightly and right-associative=
ly than=20
<br>surrounding bridi connected by just {i}. One may want left-association:
<br>
<br>lo filso cu lacpu lo mamta bakni lo carce .icabo lo cifybakni cu pinfu=
=20
<br>.itezu'ebo facki lo jei la .iaves. kau gasnu lo nunbilma
<br>
<br>(This is an abbreviated version of 1 Samuel 6:7-9.) Is there a way to c=
onnect=20
<br>three or more bridi with prepositions without forcing right association=
?
<br>
<br>Pierre
<br>--=20
<br>li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa
<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>{tu'e tu'u} structure w=
ill help.</div><div><br></div><div>http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentuf=
a/camxes.html</div><div><br></div><div>bare {i SUMTCITA bo}:</div><div>([br=
oda VAU] [i ca bo {brode VAU} {i &lt;te zu'e&gt; bo &lt;brodo VAU&gt;}])</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>with {tu'e tu'u}:</div><div>([tu'e {&lt;broda VAU&gt=
; &lt;i ca bo (=C2=B9brode VAU=C2=B9)&gt;} tu'u] [i {te zu'e} bo {brodo VAU=
}])</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>iku'i e'uru'e&nbsp;</div><div>I=
 would rather simply add "jo'au zantufa xi pire", because this parser suppo=
rts left-association of BO (though {ku} or {cu} become necessary after {la =
CMEVLA} because it supports also cmevla as tanru unit):</div><div><br></div=
><div>http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-0.2.html</div><div><br><=
/div><div>([CU {broda VAU}] [i ca bo {CU &lt;brode VAU&gt;}] [i {te zu'e} b=
o {CU &lt;brodo VAU&gt;}])</div><div>&nbsp;</div></div>

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