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[129.241.210.8]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id q11si4913052ljg.2.2019.08.07.10.33.09 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.8 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.241.210.8; Received: from pingu.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pingu.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0709F1E9E08; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:33:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nvg.ntnu.no Received: from pingu.nvg.ntnu.no ([127.0.0.1]) by pingu.nvg.ntnu.no (pingu.nvg.ntnu.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0FnSSPUS0UlQ; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:33:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:92e6:baff:fe68:dd1c]) by pingu.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1309A1E9E07; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:33:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x77HX7j1008625; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:33:07 +0200 Received: (from arj@localhost) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id x77HX724008624; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:33:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:33:07 +0200 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Cc: la gleki Subject: Re: [bpfk] Officially updating "Complete Lojban Language" grammar book. An official LLG proposal passed. Your help needed. Message-ID: <20190807173307.GL11404@nvg.org> References: <391988c7-80ac-45c1-9549-8c22ebf6a113@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <391988c7-80ac-45c1-9549-8c22ebf6a113@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Original-Sender: arj@nvg.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=arj@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_bar: --- Content-Length: 2188 coi lojbo ni'o mi mo'u tcidu le nu galfi be cy ly ly kei stidi liste .i da'a le se stidi cu se zanru mi .i dei noi notci cu pinka po'o pa le se stidi .i ca ku mi na'e tolcru ri ni'o stidi lo nu vimcu zoi gy It is illegal to add a hyphen at a place that is not required by this algorithm. gy gi'e jmina zoi gy It is possible to optionally add an y-hyphen between the consonants of any permissible consonant pair e.g. for stylistic purposes or for the ease of pronunciation. gy .i lo mukti be le se go'i cu na filsmu .i .e'u ko ga'i nai sitna lo purci ke casnu se cusku ku le se stidi ni'o ji'a le se stidi cu simlu lo ka jai tolsarcu je xlali .i sa'e ju'o cu'i le cnino javni cu fanta tu'a lo fu'ivla -- Hello Lojbanis, I have read the list of change proposals to CLL. All the proposals except one are fine by me. This message is a comment on one of the proposals. I am not vetoing it at this time. It is suggested to replace: It is illegal to add a hyphen at a place that is not required by this algorithm. with: It is possible to optionally add an y-hyphen between the consonants of any permissible consonant pair e.g. for stylistic purposes or for the ease of pronunciation. The motivation for this is not clear. If you could possibly cite past discussions in support of this proposal, that would be nice. Furthermore, the proposal appears to be unnecessary and detrimental. To be precise, it seems to me that the new rules would prevent some fu'ivla. -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ This program posts news to billions of machines throughout the galaxy. Your message will cost the net enough to bankrupt your entire planet. As a result your species will be sold into slavery. Be sure you know what you are doing. 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