Return-path: Envelope-to: jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:31:32 -0800 Received: from [192.168.123.254] (port=38302 helo=jiten.lojban.org) by b32fe687e415 with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1tYMDn-0010gA-0k for jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:31:32 -0800 Received: by jiten.lojban.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:31:26 +0000 From: "Apache" To: curtis289@att.net Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org Subject: [jvsw] Definition Edited At Word enxoiurodni -- By krtisfranks Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:31:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "enxoiurodni" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < This word generalizes the concept of the adjective sequence «двоюродный», «троюродный», etc. in Russian; there is no good, simple term which describes this transformation in English; the basic idea is that $x_1$ is a relative of $x_4$ according to $x_5$ who is in the same generation as the base relationship given by $x_3$ but who is $x_2$ degrees greater in separation from $x_4$ than a person who is $x_4$'s $x_3$ would be (should they exist). $x_3$ is a "{si'o}"-abstraction with the embedded selbri being a relationship (herein denoted as "$R$"), such as "sibling" or "grandparent", between a generic pair of nodes in such a tree graph; it is understood to be with respect to $x_4$. Extract and define $ξ =$ {tamseingu}$_2$ and $υ =$ tamseingu$_3$ for $R$ relative to its relevant primary subject node (so, if $R$ is "being a sibling (of $_4$)", then $(ξ, υ) = (1, 0)$). Notice that $ξ$ is a nonnegative integer. Then $x_2$ must be an integer such that $-ξ ≤ x_2$. The result of asserting this word is that "$x_1$ tamseingu ({li} $ξ + x_2$, li $υ$, $x_4$, $x_5$)" is being asserted to be true. Gendering, age relationships, etc. in the embedded selbri ($R$) of $x_3$ does not have any implication for the same concerning $x_1$. The actual existence of someone who satisfies $R$ for $x_4$ is not implied. This word need not apply solely to familial relationships. --- > This word generalizes the concept of the adjective sequence «двоюродный», «троюродный», etc. in Russian; there is no good, simple term which describes this transformation in English; the basic idea is that $x_1$ is a relative of $x_4$ according to $x_5$ who is in the same generation as the base relationship given by $x_3$ but who is $x_2$ degrees greater in separation from $x_4$ than a person who is $x_4$'s $x_3$ would be (should they exist). $x_3$ is a "{si'o}"-abstraction with the embedded selbri being a relationship (herein denoted as "$R$"), such as "sibling" or "grandparent", between a generic pair of nodes in such a tree graph; it is understood to be with respect to $x_4$. Extract and define $ξ =$ {tamseingu}$_2$ and $υ =$ tamseingu$_3$ for $R$ relative to its relevant primary subject node (so, if $R$ is "being a sibling (of $x_4$)", then $(ξ, υ) = (1, 0)$). Notice that $ξ$ is a nonnegative integer. Then $x_2$ must be an integer such that $-ξ ≤ x_2$. The result of asserting this word is that "$x_1$ tamseingu ({li} $ξ + x_2$, li $υ$, $x_4$, $x_5$)" is being asserted to be true. Gendering, ages, etc. or comparisons thereof in the embedded selbri ($R$) of $x_3$ does not have any implication for the same properties of/concerning $x_1$. The actual existence of someone who satisfies $R$ for $x_4$ is not implied. This word need not apply solely to familial relationships; for example, it can apply to those of a corporate organization chart too (see: "{grafnseljimcnkipliiu}"). See also: "{tamne}". 11,11d10 < Word: relative in the same generation as the head noun but one degree greater in separation, In Sense: Russian concept for familial relations \n12a12,12 \n> Word: relative in the same generation as the head noun but one degree greater in separation, In Sense: Russian concept for familial relations Old Data: Definition: $x_1$ is the $(x_{2} + 1)$-оюродный (li; integer) kin member/relative of $x_4$ defined from base relation $x_3$ (si'o; generic term, applied with respect to $x_4$) in directed, connected tree graph/network/hierarchy $x_5$. Notes: This word generalizes the concept of the adjective sequence «двоюродный», «троюродный», etc. in Russian; there is no good, simple term which describes this transformation in English; the basic idea is that $x_1$ is a relative of $x_4$ according to $x_5$ who is in the same generation as the base relationship given by $x_3$ but who is $x_2$ degrees greater in separation from $x_4$ than a person who is $x_4$'s $x_3$ would be (should they exist). $x_3$ is a "{si'o}"-abstraction with the embedded selbri being a relationship (herein denoted as "$R$"), such as "sibling" or "grandparent", between a generic pair of nodes in such a tree graph; it is understood to be with respect to $x_4$. Extract and define $ξ =$ {tamseingu}$_2$ and $υ =$ tamseingu$_3$ for $R$ relative to its relevant primary subject node (so, if $R$ is "being a sibling (of $_4$)", then $(ξ, υ) = (1, 0)$). Notice that $ξ$ is a nonnegative integer. Then $x_2$ must be an integer such that $-ξ ≤ x_2$. The result of asserting this word is that "$x_1$ tamseingu ({li} $ξ + x_2$, li $υ$, $x_4$, $x_5$)" is being asserted to be true. Gendering, age relationships, etc. in the embedded selbri ($R$) of $x_3$ does not have any implication for the same concerning $x_1$. The actual existence of someone who satisfies $R$ for $x_4$ is not implied. This word need not apply solely to familial relationships. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: relative in the same generation as the head noun but one degree greater in separation, In Sense: Russian concept for familial relations Word: n-оюродный, In Sense: Russian concept for familial relations Place Keywords: New Data: Definition: $x_1$ is the $(x_{2} + 1)$-оюродный (li; integer) kin member/relative of $x_4$ defined from base relation $x_3$ (si'o; generic term, applied with respect to $x_4$) in directed, connected tree graph/network/hierarchy $x_5$. Notes: This word generalizes the concept of the adjective sequence «двоюродный», «троюродный», etc. in Russian; there is no good, simple term which describes this transformation in English; the basic idea is that $x_1$ is a relative of $x_4$ according to $x_5$ who is in the same generation as the base relationship given by $x_3$ but who is $x_2$ degrees greater in separation from $x_4$ than a person who is $x_4$'s $x_3$ would be (should they exist). $x_3$ is a "{si'o}"-abstraction with the embedded selbri being a relationship (herein denoted as "$R$"), such as "sibling" or "grandparent", between a generic pair of nodes in such a tree graph; it is understood to be with respect to $x_4$. Extract and define $ξ =$ {tamseingu}$_2$ and $υ =$ tamseingu$_3$ for $R$ relative to its relevant primary subject node (so, if $R$ is "being a sibling (of $x_4$)", then $(ξ, υ) = (1, 0)$). Notice that $ξ$ is a nonnegative integer. Then $x_2$ must be an integer such that $-ξ ≤ x_2$. The result of asserting this word is that "$x_1$ tamseingu ({li} $ξ + x_2$, li $υ$, $x_4$, $x_5$)" is being asserted to be true. Gendering, ages, etc. or comparisons thereof in the embedded selbri ($R$) of $x_3$ does not have any implication for the same properties of/concerning $x_1$. The actual existence of someone who satisfies $R$ for $x_4$ is not implied. This word need not apply solely to familial relationships; for example, it can apply to those of a corporate organization chart too (see: "{grafnseljimcnkipliiu}"). See also: "{tamne}". Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: n-оюродный, In Sense: Russian concept for familial relations Word: relative in the same generation as the head noun but one degree greater in separation, In Sense: Russian concept for familial relations Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.