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In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a
definition of "zamveka" in the language "English".

Differences:

2,2c2,2
< 		$x_1$ is conscious, aware, capable of understanding experiences to some degree, and capable of forming new and lasting experiential memories according to standard $x_2$.
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> 		$x_1$ is conscious, aware, capable of understanding experiences to some degree, and capable of forming new and lasting experiential memories, and has some sense of defined and stable self/identity/personality according to standard $x_2$.
5,5c5,5
< 		Parallel to "{jmive}". The experiential memories are {se} {vedli}. Humans usually begin to become zamveka after a few years, with it being patchy until pre-adolescence. They say that everyone remembers where they were when they found out that some major public event (such as JFK's assassination or the September 11th attacks) had happened; but, in reality, such claims apply only to people who are zamveka (and thus excludes very young children).
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> 		Parallel to "{jmive}". The experiential memories are {se} {vedli}. Humans usually begin to become zamveka after a few years, with it being patchy until pre-adolescence. They say that everyone remembers where they were when they found out that some major public event (such as JFK's assassination or the September 11th attacks) had happened; but, in reality, such claims apply only to people who are zamveka (and thus excludes very young children). The idea of this word is that it captures the notion of a human's (or other being's) 'effective life' rather than their technical one, at least from the standpoint of retrospective reflection by that person. A person who undergoes substantial neurological or psychological trauma or modification such that they have a new, separate personality afterward and have few if any memories from prior times may say that their own (new identity's) period of zamveka began after that trauma/modification event.


Old Data:

	Definition:
		$x_1$ is conscious, aware, capable of understanding experiences to some degree, and capable of forming new and lasting experiential memories according to standard $x_2$.

	Notes:
		Parallel to "{jmive}". The experiential memories are {se} {vedli}. Humans usually begin to become zamveka after a few years, with it being patchy until pre-adolescence. They say that everyone remembers where they were when they found out that some major public event (such as JFK's assassination or the September 11th attacks) had happened; but, in reality, such claims apply only to people who are zamveka (and thus excludes very young children).

	Jargon:
		

	Gloss Keywords:
		Word: the aware and memory-forming-capable portions of life, In Sense: 

	Place Keywords:


New Data:

	Definition:
		$x_1$ is conscious, aware, capable of understanding experiences to some degree, and capable of forming new and lasting experiential memories, and has some sense of defined and stable self/identity/personality according to standard $x_2$.

	Notes:
		Parallel to "{jmive}". The experiential memories are {se} {vedli}. Humans usually begin to become zamveka after a few years, with it being patchy until pre-adolescence. They say that everyone remembers where they were when they found out that some major public event (such as JFK's assassination or the September 11th attacks) had happened; but, in reality, such claims apply only to people who are zamveka (and thus excludes very young children). The idea of this word is that it captures the notion of a human's (or other being's) 'effective life' rather than their technical one, at least from the standpoint of retrospective reflection by that person. A person who undergoes substantial neurological or psychological trauma or modification such that they have a new, separate personality afterward and have few if any memories from prior times may say that their own (new identity's) period of zamveka began after that trauma/modification event.

	Jargon:
		

	Gloss Keywords:
		Word: the aware and memory-forming-capable portions of life, In Sense: 

	Place Keywords:


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