Return-path: Envelope-to: jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 12:25:52 -0700 Received: from [192.168.123.254] (port=56714 helo=web.lojban.org) by fe3e2dc928fd with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uPR53-003zn1-27 for jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2025 12:25:52 -0700 Received: by web.lojban.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 11 Jun 2025 19:25:49 +0000 From: "Apache" To: ByronJohnsonFP@gmail.com Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org Subject: [jvsw] Definition Added At Word do'e'o'au'i -- By bairyn Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 19:25:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / In jbovlaste, the user bairyn has added a definition of "do'e'o'au'i" in the language "English". New Data: Definition: place-structure-stable tanru (CLL tanru place structure); «sei baunpli be la terbristotau». Notes: In the CLL Lojban standard (section 2.9), the tertau / final component determines the place structure. The language feature / extension {terbricnetau} allows tanru to modify the place structure rather than just the meaning, and also opens the place structure up a bit to context as well (e.g. with constructs for specifying dialects or dictionary modes - see also {baunpli} to ‘import’ a dictionary as well). When used / enabled, this allows affected tanru to function a little closer to lujvo, permitting context to allow some tanru to act more like idioms; indeed even the {seltau} may be a dictionary or qualified import name. Disabling this with {terbristotau} ensures tanru are ordinary CLL tanru with respect to place structure. ni'o Generally, scope is by default short ({ve'i'ai}) and affecting the preceding cmavo group like UI attachment / emphasis, but it can alternatively be medium scope or for the whole top-level bridi; and it can be with long scope for ‘sticky’ / permanent attachment, with {ve'u'ai}. Scope can also be precisely and explicitly declared with a full {baunpli} declaration, especially with x3. Even within a tanru, {ke} or {bo}-like connectors can be used to enable and disable this feature for multiple different specific tanru at the same time that are nested within a larger, composite tanru. With unspecified scope, generally by default {ve'i'ai} is used, which can affect a top-level bridi by appearing after «.i», except if scope in unspecified (e.g. there is no {ve'i'ai}-like expression or equivalent) and it appears alone with nothing else in a {bridi}, then a long-scope (sticky/permanent) of {ve'u'ai} may be inferred instead of {ve'i'ai}. See also {tu'e'ei}, {tu'u'o}. ni'o «{do'e'e}» is a contraction of «{do'e'e'au'i}» which == «sei {baunpli} be la {terbricnetau}». «{do'e'o}» is a contraction of «{do'e'o'au'i}» which == «sei {baunpli} be la {terbristotau}». Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: place-structure-stable tanru, In Sense: long baunpli declaration Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.