Return-path: Envelope-to: jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org Delivery-date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:46:51 -0700 Received: from [192.168.123.254] (port=51026 helo=jiten.lojban.org) by 54872a72d4fc with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vAB0y-000CMx-1l for jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:46:51 -0700 Received: by jiten.lojban.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 18 Oct 2025 17:46:48 +0000 From: "Apache" To: spheniscine@gmail.com Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org Subject: [jvsw] Definition Edited At Word zviki -- By janbe Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 17:46:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_score_int: -9 X-Spam_bar: - In jbovlaste, the user janbe has edited a definition of "zviki" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < Contains no positive or negative connotations, can refer both to 'cool/elegant hacks' ({se} {mlezvi}) and 'kludge/ugly hacks' ({se} {feglyzvi}). Hack as in 'gain unauthorized or unexpected access to' = {zvijonse}, 'White-hat' hacking = {vudzvi}/{vudzvijonse}, 'black-hat' hacking = {pacyzvi}/{pacyzvijonse}, 'grey-hat' hacking = {norvudzvi}/{norvudzvijonse}. Proposed rafsi: -zvi-. See {kosmu}, {finti}, {jonse} --- > Contains no positive or negative connotations, can refer both to 'cool/elegant hacks' ({se} {mlezvi}) and 'kludge/ugly hacks' ({se} {feglyzvi}). Hack as in 'gain unauthorized or unexpected access to' = {zvijonse}, 'White-hat' hacking = {vudzvi}/{vudzvijonse}, 'black-hat' hacking = {pacyzvi}/{pacyzvijonse}, 'grey-hat' hacking = {norvudzvi}/{norvudzvijonse}. See {kosmu}, {finti}, {jonse} Old Data: Definition: $x_1$ (agent) creates 'hack' $x_2$ (nu/zu'o/si'o) for system/tool $x_3$ from inspiration $x_4$; $x_2$ is an emergent use/purpose for $x_3$, unexpected by the original creators or users Notes: Contains no positive or negative connotations, can refer both to 'cool/elegant hacks' ({se} {mlezvi}) and 'kludge/ugly hacks' ({se} {feglyzvi}). Hack as in 'gain unauthorized or unexpected access to' = {zvijonse}, 'White-hat' hacking = {vudzvi}/{vudzvijonse}, 'black-hat' hacking = {pacyzvi}/{pacyzvijonse}, 'grey-hat' hacking = {norvudzvi}/{norvudzvijonse}. Proposed rafsi: -zvi-. See {kosmu}, {finti}, {jonse} Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: hack, In Sense: invent an emergent solution/use Place Keywords: Word: hack, In Sense: emergent solution/use for a system/tool, For Place: 2 New Data: Definition: $x_1$ (agent) creates 'hack' $x_2$ (nu/zu'o/si'o) for system/tool $x_3$ from inspiration $x_4$; $x_2$ is an emergent use/purpose for $x_3$, unexpected by the original creators or users Notes: Contains no positive or negative connotations, can refer both to 'cool/elegant hacks' ({se} {mlezvi}) and 'kludge/ugly hacks' ({se} {feglyzvi}). Hack as in 'gain unauthorized or unexpected access to' = {zvijonse}, 'White-hat' hacking = {vudzvi}/{vudzvijonse}, 'black-hat' hacking = {pacyzvi}/{pacyzvijonse}, 'grey-hat' hacking = {norvudzvi}/{norvudzvijonse}. See {kosmu}, {finti}, {jonse} Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: hack, In Sense: invent an emergent solution/use Place Keywords: Word: hack, In Sense: emergent solution/use for a system/tool, For Place: 2 You can go to to see it.