Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03749D700 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f137.google.com (mail-vw0-f137.google.com [209.85.212.137]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B70CE29B for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so2108202vws.17 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:dkim-signature :domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:reply-to:sender :precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; bh=1U3LuaHkCDgS6Z0MdbPRRP5M+76+C3cemS/0tiyOVqs=; b=OLMl51seenutOE5f1RM8LOg0+mttDb7JgmkvWhfQBCE7B3AMJFdDKPiqkBgKIYE4Oy fmrV2kbxdIbXAewKTtw675NNGOL/Rq/4T9VWZo38ks3K6VqKRnOMrQOZJsmkmy2z4cQ6 gNJVWDYyxxzPYXWUAXOUfiTVbgLP7V4PKfi2w= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results :dkim-signature:domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:reply-to :sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; b=z7NQf/9Tvzb9cH3lXfyegqa4NFP3AdP80VE6SthF99P1l0yg7KG+Gh8gEXNAPcAidN 4SewKZ+zzIgwV/3LX7pYBdtE3mNcBsPxrfUddWVhJUPDg/IIs4pBDxXZSOp0ssNZr9Uu G9CYllIKcTnIMvqypeoBIC/LO1uhJbFL6qCQQ= Received: by 10.220.78.89 with SMTP id j25mr2717480vck.21.1251919276310; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.230.12.222 with SMTP id y30gr7vby.0; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.101.3 with SMTP id a3mr413996vco.17.1251919275990; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.101.3 with SMTP id a3mr413995vco.17.1251919275966; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f191.google.com (mail-vw0-f191.google.com [209.85.212.191]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 21si23238vws.9.2009.09.02.12.21.14; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.191 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.191; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.191 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=matt.mattarn@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Received: by mail-vw0-f191.google.com with SMTP id 29so1006475vws.4 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GETLZyIDojBhNeoBAIi2GE69WN9zNY6nC64j1Ik2bRI=; b=cuROCPD+rzIHNhilmXhVvErJEfH59VC8J30WW4EGDt+3n4c9A/joY9Y51cOVWW+fKh b6myWrS02tKl+EwV/4CmGAcyXYBufH5TihWxiBIFuj+0oyfIsqziMofOzsf4gd68TJvk DeWmU8WkOftkAbmO8LFpnMYQYKrnrL/Vx1wqM= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pYaLOZlGsIpRZkZpHLovU9jY7RFO9+10kBEa0AyPxGsWELRlhrTmxouLCrP8oj7JDK AmaL3CWmkqXlZkEB6clAoZIIatAu9e7NG00wZfWL9C5DsC0bS1+53pOlFe9Q3bBj2GLg TR1GYZxosRDJKtfaHyJh4BALWFye18R82qIeU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.45.8 with SMTP id s8mr13153390ybs.337.1251919273958; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:21:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909020953.01822.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <1f194146-c6b9-4af1-b3dd-462c407830bc@l9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <200909020953.01822.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:21:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: test example From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Length: 1464 How about displaying it as an image? I would be happy to lay out all such questions in Adobe Illustrator. It might also inhibit cheating through text-selection and browser-find on the word lists. -Eppcott On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 September 2009 08:51:25 xorxes wrote: >> This is the kind of language proficiency test I have in mind: >> >> http://www.transparent.com/tlquiz/proftest/english/tlengtest.htm >> (English test) >> http://www.transparent.com/tlquiz/proftest/spanish/tlspatest.htm >> (Spanish test) >> >> (there are several other languages there) >> >> It's all multiple choice, divided into grammar, vocabulary and reading >> comprehension sections. This won't be enough for a full proficiency >> test, but for the first couple of levels seems ok and simple to do. >> What do you think? > > This looks like what I have in mind too. (I got 91% on Spanish.) > > Some questions for the test: > > lo _cipnrkuku_ cu _punji_ le ri _sodva_ le zdani be lo _drata_ cipni .i _no > srera_ > (The letters A-E should be under the underlines. I'm not sure of the best way > to do this. Perhaps put the whole sentence in an HTML table with the > underlined words in cells.) > > I have a beard. > A. mi ponse lo xe'akre > B. mi se xe'akre > C. lo xe'akre po mi > D. mi lo xe'akre cu ponse > E. mi du xe'akre > > What other kinds of questions would be needed for a full proficiency test? > > Pierre >