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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Length: 727 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 02 September 2009 11:07:46 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> > What other kinds of questions would be needed for a full proficiency >> > test? >> >> Listening comprehension, essay writing, speaking... > > How should those be entered in the database? For listening comprehension,= the > text in retygri.jufra could be printed on the proctor's sheet instead of = the > testee's, but then the proctor might have a lousy accent in Lojban. Listening comprehension should probably be based on prerecorded material, not something spoken live by a proctor. mu'o mi'e xorxes