Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184916378 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f163.google.com (mail-qy0-f163.google.com [209.85.221.163]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6841BCE29B for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by qyk35 with SMTP id 35so1099841qyk.18 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:received:received :date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent:reply-to:sender:precedence :x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; bh=K8UlKk//hYohlliX0ds7N8TZ5Zt0VfbodwdKFDTPhUU=; b=cTp4bbMDowDYInz219s1o59R0DIKud2uuudmAJd0GcdRp41Cxh/OFfHQM0zVnz1n87 w0AFSz8Mwg7W5rwyOm3wLokuMog+9hlzBnecMv/qmYcS1O9tawyC9gb3Dud+iDGtqGeC 5kkjS55sozAwRXCWkd5QBvNxCz9tmF1NWfSb4= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results:date :from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent:reply-to:sender:precedence :x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; b=nBlpl61Od/lOOnLY/E+14CgA9rHyH7tbj3AOhkg8DofELzNOVa+wOmWKz3oOuPgjH+ uo6a18loJ8+Hqc1ljW6gn1hS4DJNzkvw9MNswe0UmhJ+pnOaDtfzgoH+uh8UFttQsDrf WHh8VhwzuZ94wFw/Krji11esVbTiY7mmX9kLM= Received: by 10.224.84.195 with SMTP id k3mr1807670qal.29.1251912257839; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.230.9.105 with SMTP id k41gr5vbk.0; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.75.4 with SMTP id x4mr662585wfa.9.1251912256875; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.75.4 with SMTP id x4mr662584wfa.9.1251912256856; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si27069pzk.13.2009.09.02.10.24.16; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.7 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.7; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.7 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Received: (qmail 13696 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2009 17:24:16 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Sep 2009 17:24:16 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MitZ9-0005ur-Hg for lbck@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:24:15 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lbck@lojban.org Subject: An idea. Message-ID: <20090902172415.GT32444@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Length: 646 Just a random thought that crossed my mind: (some portion of) certification dues could be put in a pot to help defray logfest costs, and the reward for passing the (harder, more expensive) higher level certs could be getting money out of that pot. (on the theory that people who come to logfest tend to come back; no idea if that's actually true or not :) -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/