Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:63630) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1StHMN-0004R9-1o for lbck-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:39 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf7133038obb.16 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=pqrJB4aTbtant8xOESLnzeSs1JWx/2/NN06FqxVVhbU=; b=ngFyQXqVmqC27QyYcGXuYAkJNlFcmdO+zIn3tWw2cGt8a40zMLIc8OqS1MFxL7Cocb U7+Mz+W52489gRwh1BUD1iQGy7xXueQc3Up55uJE7z1dT6wLv/mY0/pItAz7zPJ1LS4c 2RXK1RxsciuuwTI8/aRe42/Vvz/HOfMVmVoDA= Received: by 10.236.37.129 with SMTP id y1mr2474984yha.9.1343045008894; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.149.34 with SMTP id w22ls10547019yhj.8.gmail; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.200.131 with SMTP id z3mr8055885yhn.8.1343045008546; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.200.131 with SMTP id z3mr8055883yhn.8.1343045008536; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i27si3589047yhe.4.2012.07.23.05.03.27; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BEA1460 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Volunteers / Reports from Lindar Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:03:22 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <56bb75b7-40f7-46dc-9fdb-ed3474150e9b@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <56bb75b7-40f7-46dc-9fdb-ed3474150e9b@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201207230803.23844.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 186919887485 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1244 On Tuesday 17 July 2012 03:00:50 Lindar Greenwood wrote: > Ethan Parrott says: > > all i know, is rafsi and construction of rafsi should be at the hardest > level, because that's really what fluency in lojban would be about: being > able to change, adopt, improve, and tweak the meanings of words to suit > exactly what you're describing. Maybe there could be an essay portion, in > which you describe what is happening in a 15 minute video as specifically > as you can in lojban. this is at the very hardest level, mind you. > > Now that i've written that down, it sounds *REALLY* effin' hard. so yeah. > stuff to think about, though=EF=BB=BF Even at easy levels, I think there should be some open-ended questions and= =20 some questions where the answer has to be spoken. A first-level Lojbanist=20 could be asked "lo finpe ku xabju ma" and should be able to answer "lo djac= u"=20 or "lo xamsi" or "lo rirxe" or "lo lalxu" without being presented a list of= =20 possible answers. This part of the test should be recorded, not graded whil= e=20 testing. Pierre =2D-=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada, j=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada.