Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nkj3h-0004PA-T4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:07:38 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com ([209.85.220.217]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nkj3V-0004OF-Bw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:07:32 -0800 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so6734558fxm.4 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rvtaWjgVVd6T31Tl1HRn0+F/MtC7FuYlR0pbLqLhVm0=; b=uZ+sAqIdezjAzv0LQIhkk0XDKvnrXmPmsiOox3ZMMfIB82Ta6gySGoA+FOVtAFFy9J Og7Pb9T8yhx5sBdtejVr6kUnp7xUDx0whv45NpBjPobPefMAKz1E6GkNDmzrLpE5MPu2 tQe2ZINUQcn/HR22BbSfLjm+TlNofrhAgN6Os= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aMidC0J87RtQsAuc9qqGcf0XOZjdijIAbI94RP46VAMjr4dD933cZoGIkrw7dNjYMP jdiaQoJCZV0lVpFWtYdjoecsFSPnU5CLWihkvVjfRSJj7NjOF9feivyDlMFrFwcpLE5/ Bteyg9tQYLIZzRs42ztQTIcGniyXI84qzw5eY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.156 with SMTP id 28mr47456faz.33.1267124820218; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:07:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9301002242152o28dd4f62t4943b62388d3411f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831002242001p106c6ba1k4925ec3b8ededbce@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002242152o28dd4f62t4943b62388d3411f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:07:00 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b10487ccad6df42c Message-ID: <4de8c3931002251107q28efbe99u91d9a89f3a893c09@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2902 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1065 On 25 February 2010 05:52, Luke Bergen wrote: > 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something similar > for class.  Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o} I personally wouldn't object to having a NU-ed sumti as {klama}'s proper x2, because I think that any place is essentially an abstraction (and also that being aware of this would open up some cognitive & philosophical possibilities). But some jbopre might still prefer adding {tu'a}: {mi klama tu'a lo nunselctu}. > 3) I guess it would depend on what you mean by "trippy".  Maybe some lujvo > with {cizra} in it some where?  Or you might be able to do it with an > attitudinal like {.u'e .uanai ro'e} or something.  There are others who > could do a better job of making a good attitudinal blend for "trippy". One style I would like to see us using more often in rather relaxed contexts is "VALSI zei VALSI", where VALSI can be a brivla or a ma'ovla or a cmevla. For example: u'e zei cizra, lol zei cizra, brbrbr zei cizra. mu'o mi'e tijlan