Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu ([18.7.7.76]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18espW-00060g-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:16:50 -0800 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA10694 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 03:16:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA20489 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 03:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from torg.mit.edu (RANDOM-THREE-NINETY-SIX.MIT.EDU [18.243.6.141]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA11556 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 03:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18espP-0005rT-00 for ; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:16:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 03:16:43 -0500 From: Rob Speer To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Greetings, and commands Message-ID: <20030201081643.GC22249@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org References: <67E894BA4AB90F4781580985A5FAF32E16986E@rachael.letnet.net> <20030201010726.GI9156@digitalkingdom.org> <3E3B4CF0.7090501@bilkent.edu.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E3B4CF0.7090501@bilkent.edu.tr> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 37 X-Approved-By: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 686 On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:28:32AM +0200, robin wrote: > Or e'u, if you want to be really polite. You've just hit on my ranting topic. Lojban words do not have politeness levels built in (unless the word in question is "ga'i"). As usage of the language increases, some words may acquire polite or impolite connotations, but it's wrong to assume that "e'u" is more polite than "ei" just because their English translations work that way. The phrasebook backs me up here when it points out that "ko vecnu mi ti" is not considered impolite. You could translate it literally as "Sell this to me", but "I'd like to buy this" would be an equally good translation. -- mu'o mi'e rab.spir