Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu ([18.7.7.76]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mrgv-0006LD-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:40:57 -0800 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA14741 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA20962 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from random-three-ninety-six.mit.edu (RANDOM-THREE-NINETY-SIX.MIT.EDU [18.243.6.141]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA15417 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rob by random-three-ninety-six.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18mrgq-0004GP-00 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:40:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:40:52 -0500 From: Rob Speer To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: (No References: <200302220519.h1M5Jfs6000898@miriam.letu.edu> Message-ID: <20030223084052.GA16129@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org References: <200302220519.h1M5Jfs6000898@miriam.letu.edu> <200302221636.h1MGaffO002729@express.cec.wustl.edu> <20030222194431.GD21342@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222194431.GD21342@digitalkingdom.org> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 177 X-Approved-By: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 665 On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 11:44:31AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > No, I don't think you can. A tanru can only be made out of a > > combination of brivla, and a pro-sumti represents a sumti, not a > > brivla (to my mind, an instanciation, a noun, instead of a > > relationship). It's easy to put a pronoun in a tanru: you use {me}, which turns a sumti into a brivla. {do me mi cinmo}. Or {le xagji me mi cu klama le jubme}. > Technically incorrect: > > do mi zei cinmo > > "You feel like me." Sort of. No, that's a lujvo. If you (for some reason) wanted to make a lujvo out of that, you could just as easily use the -mib- rafsi. -- mu'o mi'e rab.spir