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From: Nora LeChevalier <noras@lojban.org>
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At 05:19 AM 2/22/03 +0000, la geib. wrote:

>li remoi
>Do place tags loop?  (mi klama fu le karce va vi) probably is just bad, 
>but I had the late-night
>idea that the last two sumti might be interpreted as x2 and x3, the next 
>leftover places.
>ki'e mu'o mi'e geib.

Others have already answered that: no, place tags don't loop.  However, 
"vi" and "va" are not sumti, and so would not fill any x-sub-n place; they 
are, here, sumti tcita (place-tag-labels) themselves (acting something like 
prepositions), and therefore introduce places outside of and independent of 
the normal x1, x2, etc.  The use of "vi" and "va" (and "vu") for sumti is 
is a common beginner problem, probably due to English's using "this" and 
"that" as both adjectives and pronouns ("I hit that ball" versus "I hit 
that").  The pronoun use is more properly translated by "ti" and "ta" (and 
"tu").


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mi'e noras                                             noras@lojban.org
Nora LeChevalier