Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.bluewin.ch ([195.186.4.73]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18okrG-00031u-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:47:27 -0800 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.157.102) by mail2.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.7.015) id 3E1029A2005AC65A for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:47:25 +0000 Message-ID: <009101c2df2f$c438a9e0$669dca3e@oemcomputer> From: "G. Dyke" To: References: <3E5F5A87.7173.586479@localhost> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Backcounting (ri) question Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:46:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 188 X-Approved-By: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 423 cu'u la filip > If I want to say "I am grateful for my wife. She makes me happy.", can > I say {mi ckire fi le speni be mi .iu .i ri gekygau mi} ? > > That is, does the {ri} refer back to {mi} or to {le speni be mi}? it refers to {mi} (although in my with my gricean hat on I like to think that {ri} "counts past" other pro-sumti, in fact I wish it did) I think it should be {mi ckire le speni be mi} mi'e greg mu'o