Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-66-142-169-129.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net ([66.142.169.129] helo=adhockery.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198Mxi-0006Kl-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:19:10 -0700 Received: from adhockery.net (khaydarian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by adhockery.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h3NGJAfK025183 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:19:10 -0500 Received: (from khaydarian@localhost) by adhockery.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) id h3NGJAmn025181 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:19:10 -0500 From: Chris Evans Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:19:09 -0500 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A Newbie's First Impressions Message-ID: <20030423161909.GA24088@adhockery.net> References: <20030422183719.62722.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> <20030423063729.GA17388@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030423063729.GA17388@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 242 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: khaydarian@adhockery.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 408 > With the 'x' sound: I do not see the problem with making it generally > the same as 'h' in English. It isn't really an 'h' sound. The Lojban 'x' is one of the sounds english doesn't use much (or at all). I pronounce it _like_ an 'h', but way back in the throat. Techinically, it's a "voiced k". But, granted, a range of pronounciation exists, and that's the part of the range I use. la kris.evans.