Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198Rvq-0000nE-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:37:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9FB31F28 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:37:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp102.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.102]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2B731D38 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:37:00 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3EA76ACD.8020603@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:40:45 -0400 From: "robin.bcc" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A Newbie's First Impressions References: <20030422183719.62722.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> <20030423063729.GA17388@swbell.net> <20030423161909.GA24088@adhockery.net> <3EA6F884.2090309@bluewin.ch> <20030423203818.GD28930@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20030423203818.GD28930@digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 249 X-Approved-By: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 793 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:33:08PM +0200, G Dyke wrote: > >>Chris Evans wrote, concerning {x}: >> >> >>>Techinically, it's a "voiced k". But, >>> >>> >>> >> >>Whatever it is, it certainly isn't voiced. If you compare these >>sequences: >> >>poo pfoo foo >>tart chart shark >>k kx x >> >>x bears the same relation to k as f does to p. It is an unvoiced >>(wherever k is pronounced) fricative. > > > In lojban, it's probably perfectly legal to voice it (there's > nothing else similar). > > -Robin > It's just IPA /x/, hence the spelling. robin.tr -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin