From: "Philip Newton" <pnewton@gmx.de>
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de'i li 2003:5:27 ti'u li 14:57 la keitsyl. cu cusku di'e

> > It does, and bilingual punning is a feature of lobykulnu.
> 
> Oh good, it isn't just me :-)  is lobykulnu a lujvo or tanru or
> something else?  I found kulnu easily in the online dictionary but had
> to search for "loby", loby and lob both come up empty on the
> dictionary, but I found "lojbo" has a "lob" rafsi, so I'm guysing loby
> comes from lojbo.. please elucidate for me. 

It's a lujvo, formed (as you guessed) from the tanru {lojbo kulnu}. The 
-y- is inserted because "bk" is not a permissible consonant cluster in 
Lojban (voiced stop next to unvoiced stop), so lob + kulnu => 
lobykulnu.

Other versions of that lujvo (which all mean the same) as {jbokulnu}, 
{lobyklu}, and {jboklu}. (The dictionary would, presumably, include 
{jboklu} if it includes any of the forms, since, as I understand it, 
the dictionary will use the lowest-scoring form of any lujvo, where 
score takes into account the length of the word, among other things.)

mu'o mi'e .filip.
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filip.niutyn. <pnewton@gmx.de>