Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 May 2003 10:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CkFq-0001af-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 10:59:58 -0700 Received: (qmail 30412 invoked by uid 534); 5 May 2003 17:59:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:59:57 -0600 From: Jay F Kominek To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: coi lojban. Message-ID: <20030505175957.GM15743@miranda.org> References: <200305020753.h427rs624168@mail.cjb.net> <20030502165610.GG6079@digitalkingdom.org> <20030505175322.GA1309@panda.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030505175322.GA1309@panda.localdomain> Accept-Language: art-lojban, en User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 298 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 551 On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 01:53:22AM +0800, tk1@despammed.com wrote: > If I change the above Lojban sentence to {pa de poi finpe cu se prami ro da > poi prenu}, will the new sentence take on the first or second meaning? In > other words, can the use of the word {se} potentially _change_ the meaning > of a sentence, in addition to switching sumti order? You're reordering the sumti to get the opposite effect of the SE cmavo used, so, no. -- Jay Kominek Advice is a dangerous gift; be cautious about giving and receiving it.