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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:27:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Travis Garris <ptg_thug@yahoo.com>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Dates
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--- Theodore Reed <rizen@surreality.us> wrote:
> Here's a related question. How would you relate time
> zone info? As in "16:24 -0700"? (-0700 being Pacific
> Daylight Time, my current time zone)

I thought Lojban had a place for that.  I could look
it up, but I thought the Lojban idea was "it is x time
according to y location".  Time zones are easy, in my
mind set.  They follow the time when you are in
conversation (and you don't use conversions).  I think
they should just follow the time in a manner not
unlike English.

I don't mind big endian when writing the date or time
down in a short hand manner.  In a conversational
context, however, how would you say "June 25th" or
"the 25th of June".

What I'm trying to get is the Lojban equivalent of
"Today is Wednesday, the 25th of June."  I'm not
worried about keeping the English order.  I'm just
trying to keep the casual, warm nature.  I could be
cold or formal and say "25 June 2003" or "2003/06/25".
 I just don't imagine most people will be that verbose
or detail oriented in a language that avoids detail,
leaving it to context ("verbs" have no tenses, et al).

I was reading other stuff on the Wiki about naming the
days of the week or the months of the year.  The only
one that bothers me is naming the months after signs
of the Zodiac.  There are 13 sun signs, and only
twelve months.  I think our calendar is broken but I
doubt Lojban is the place to fix that.  I have no
problem with saying "six-month".  How do you think
October, November, and December were named?

Travis Garris
Norfolk, Va.


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