Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miriam.letu.edu ([66.185.64.40]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19O6mm-0006vr-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:16:57 -0700 Received: from miriam.letu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by miriam.letu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h562GtUN028984 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:16:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nobody@miriam.letu.edu) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by miriam.letu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h562Gsb7028983; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:16:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200306060216.h562Gsb7028983@miriam.letu.edu> To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] logic From: "Gabe Bodeen" Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:16:54 -0000 X-Client-IP: 64.28.48.228 X-archive-position: 368 X-Approved-By: GabeBodeen@letu.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: GabeBodeen@letu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 446 Is the bridi- ci da zo'u da gerku -true or false? Chapter 16 of the online version of the Cowan's book doesn't cover this for those of us who haven't learned formal logic. Certainly the English, "There are three things which are dogs," could be understood as either true or false, and serves only to confuse the matter. I would guess that the above bridi would be false, and the correct version should instead be su'oci da zo'u da gerku