Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camay.yandex.ru ([213.180.193.64]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19olLf-0000er-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:51:07 -0700 Received: from YAMAIL (camay.yandex.ru) by mail.yandex.ru id ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:50:54 +0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:50:54 +0400 (MSD) From: "ieroxta" Message-Id: <3F40E7CE.000006.08282@camay.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] ZAhO sumti tcita X-source-ip: 81.195.114.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 420 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jeroxta@yandex.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 744 coi. rodo If I understand correctly, all ZAhO cmavo are grammatically the same, and can serve as sumti tcita and forethought connectives. So, if we have, say, two sentences: .i mi citka .ibo mi sipna then (leaving alone all the stuff concerning veridical|/non veridical claims) .i mi citka ba'o lenu mi sipna will mean something like "I eat after the-event-of-my-sleeping is over". similarly, .i mi citka pu'o lenu mi sipna means "I eat before the event-of-my-sleeping starts" But the thing I can't figure out is the meaning of the following: .i mi citka co'u lenu mi sipna .i mi citka za'o lenu mi sipna .i mi citka di'a lenu mi sipna .i mi citka de'a lenu mi sipna or .i za'ogi mi citka gi mi sipna co'omu'onai mi'e .alekseir.