Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [216.127.72.21] (helo=www.simlifecycle.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Avhy9-0004Vj-BV for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:11:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (melissa@localhost) by www.simlifecycle.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1OISg818842 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:28:42 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:28:42 -0600 (CST) From: melissa@fastanimals.com X-X-Sender: melissa@www.simlifecycle.com To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: precise definition of cmene In-Reply-To: <20040224100901.GA10169@fysh.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 514 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: melissa@fastanimals.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1065 On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Zefram wrote: > melissa@fastanimals.com wrote: > >"la serinus.serinus.kanarias."? It takes the "la" article, and is formed > >like a name. But in what way does this not stand for a class of things? > > "la serinus.serinus.kanarias." refers to a species. A species is an > individual entity, with its own name. > > >la dinas. gerku la mutt > > "la mut." (remember, cmene are formed phonetically) would not refer to > any individual entity, and so is not a valid usage. OK, thanks, making more sense now . . . but "Labrador Retriever," for example, is a breed. Could I then say "la labrydor.rytrivyr." although that is not a Latin classification? Or is that considered too vague since it isn't biologically defined? How *would* I say that Deena is a mutt? Could I say la dinas. gerku le mixre Could I even say la dinas. mixre la labrydor.rytrivyr. if I wanted to specify that she is a Lab mix? We like our dog, and talk about her a lot. .a'i -- Melissa H. Dogmom to Deena the wonder dog Mother to Nicholas, born 11/24/2002