Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.226]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AvkW8-0006uk-Di for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:55:04 -0800 Received: from user91.net857.oh.sprint-hsd.net ([69.34.22.91] helo=devel.openschooling.org) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AvkVu-0001R2-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:54:50 -0800 From: Chris Hornbaker To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: precise definition of cmene Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:55:02 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402242155.02157.chrishornbaker@earthlink.net> X-archive-position: 515 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: chrishornbaker@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1440 On Tue February 24 2004 18:28, melissa@fastanimals.com wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Zefram wrote: > > > melissa@fastanimals.com wrote: > > >"la serinus.serinus.kanarias."? It takes the "la" article, and is formed > > >like a name. But in what way does this not stand for a class of things? > > > > "la serinus.serinus.kanarias." refers to a species. A species is an > > individual entity, with its own name. > > > > >la dinas. gerku la mutt > > > > "la mut." (remember, cmene are formed phonetically) would not refer to > > any individual entity, and so is not a valid usage. > > OK, thanks, making more sense now . . . but "Labrador Retriever," for > example, is a breed. Could I then say "la labrydor.rytrivyr." although > that is not a Latin classification? Or is that considered too vague since > it isn't biologically defined? > > How *would* I say that Deena is a mutt? Could I say > > la dinas. gerku le mixre Look up lujvo and combine mixre with gerku. That would be much closer. > Could I even say > > la dinas. mixre la labrydor.rytrivyr. > > if I wanted to specify that she is a Lab mix? > > We like our dog, and talk about her a lot. .a'i -- Christopher Hornbaker Jabber ID: Jilks@jabber.org Email: chrishornbaker@earthlink.net Join the Free State Project! http://www.freestateproject.org "Liberty in Our Lifetime" Was I helpful? Let me know! http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=Jilks