Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AwpkY-0004uU-5F for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:42:26 -0800 Received: (qmail 30005 invoked by uid 534); 27 Feb 2004 21:42:24 -0000 From: jkominek@miranda.org Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:42:24 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <20040227214224.GF15105@miranda.org> References: <1077917225.37F4121F@s5.dngr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1077917225.37F4121F@s5.dngr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Accept-Language: jbo, en X-archive-position: 537 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 832 On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 03:26:59PM -0600, Daniel E Huston wrote: > Although Lojban allows one to phrase statements independent of context-- > so far-- as a stage magician I would still use context. In fact, that's > a key part of how I would do illusions. The human brain perceives > context as well as detail. That's what makes the illusionist's art > possible. I would argue that even though Lojban may be context-free (& > I'm not convinced that it is), Lojban speakers are not! Er, the rules of the syntax are (a close approximation of) context-free, in a strict computer theoretic way. That is the only sense in which it is context-free. You're quite right, to understand the meaning of utterances, you need context. -- Jay Kominek They may be the laws of physics, but I still don't trust them.