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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 04:39:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Story time
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--- der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> wrote:
>
> > {la bardivuar. vi le mi zdani cu barja
> 
> I can't parse this any way that doesn't have you speaking of yourself
> as the home of something unspecified.  Might you mean {se zdani}, or
> perhaps something based on {xabju}?

{le mi zdani} is a sumti, "my home", equivalent to {le zdani pe mi}.
 
> I'll stick my neck out and guess you're trying to say "There's a bar
> _Bar Devoir_ right next to where I live.".  (If so, I'd be inclined to
> spell it {bardevuar.}....)

I thought it was Bar d'Ivoir.

> > .i lo pulji cu klama by. .ije ku'i noda .ianai viska node .ianai
> 
> I'm not sure of the distinction you're trying to draw between {noda}
> and {node}, quite likely because I don't entirely understand them. :-/
> 
> "The police came/come to B., but I can't believe nobody at all saw/sees
> nothing at all; I still can't believe it."

Under the usual interpretation, the two negatives will cancel
and {noda viska node} would be equivalent to {roda viska su'ode},
"everybody saw something". 

To say that nobody saw anything you'd have to say {noda viska su'ode}
or {roda viska node}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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