Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:02:31 -0400
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From: Matt Arnold <mattarn@123.net>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: cmavo can be selbri?
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I think you're using "la" incorrectly. It makes proper names, like
"the Empire State Building" or "Mario." What you want is "zo," which
indicates a one-word quote. So, "zo xu." However, "zo cmavo" in place
of "la cmavo" wouldn't work either. I'm not sure how to say that xu is
"part of the set, cmavo." Robin?
-Matt

lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote:
>Whee, don't know if anyone listens to this list, but definitely have a
>few questions.  Here goes the first one...
>
>I know that gismu can be selbri... seen enough examples of that.  But
>the definition for 'du' calls it both cmavo and selbri.  Is this a
>valid question in lojban:
>
>xu la xu cu du la cmavo
>
>If that is true, then can 'xu' itself be used as a selbri?  Or is it
>just that some cmavo cannot be used as selbri, since they don't define
>a predicate structure?  Or perhaps in the 'xu' example, it would be
>the selbri for establishing a question regarding the sumti?
>
>I understand that cmavo itself is a cmavo-establishment selbri, so it
>would be better to ask instead
>
>xu zo'e cmavo la xu
>
>But I was curious as to whether the 'du' cmavo could be used as a selbri.
>

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