Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPs5F-0002un-KH for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:36:06 -0800 Received: by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix, from userid 72) id 210DF26F7F; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 02:35:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from [139.179.111.112] (ppp112.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.112]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B5626F6D for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 02:35:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <418ABF25.9050209@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:45:41 +0200 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040914 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Question around beginner's chapter 4 References: <20041104214043.22663.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041104214043.22663.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 862 X-Approved-By: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1073 Jorge Llambías wrote: > --- robin.tr> wrote: > >>Unless my knowledge of Lojban has plummetted further than I thought >>since writing that chapter, > > > Oops :) > .u'iga'inai Well it has been a looong time. Maybe I should go back and re-read what I wrote (+ CLL) before answering questions here! >>you don't want double articles here. {le ci >>gerku} is "the three dogs", but {le ci} on its own means "the three" >>(e.g. the holy trinity or the three rings of the elf lords), so with {le >>ci le gerku} you have two sumti. > > > Actually, it is just one sumti. {le ci} on its own is not a sumti. > "The three" would be {le ci da}. (Maybe you were thinking of {li ci}, > the number three.) I was assuming (incorrectly) that {le ci} followed the same rules. robin.tr -- "His youngest brother, Tendzin Choegyal, says one of the Dalai Lama's greatest finds of recent years was super-glue -- second, in fact, only to the more recent discovery of super-glue remover." Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin