Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CZiDv-0004lO-6j for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:05:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 20:05:43 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Where can I learn more about logic? Message-ID: <20041202040543.GI25791@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20041201210457.48096.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> <200412020330.iB23UNIP018148@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412020330.iB23UNIP018148@mole.e-mol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 916 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1121 On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:30:23PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > I was just reading the Lojban wiki page about descriptions, and > gave up. Which page, exactly? If it's http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Descriptions that's written by PC, who couldn't write something clear and understandable if his life depending on it. > The more I learn about Lojban grammar, the more I realize I could > benefit from learning formal logic. For instance, I don't know > what masses and sets are, exactly. Masses are almost purely a Lojban concept; but see http://philosophy.syr.edu/mckay.html for something nearly identical. It's not beginner accessible, though (in fact, it blows my mind). > Is there an accessable and (preferably) free work to which you can > point me? Ouch. I learned formal logic in school. You might want to start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic , but maybe others here can help. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/