Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cwdbi-0003Fi-Uy for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:49:03 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so40732rnf for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:49:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NPRj4BPEEYM/J010R6pUo/QkAvJ3UiPBQszYQmxnZQwmHRxAP7G9yySBeyjnLtqgCuBRF4J3v9e3Km20EqeCk1XZ/2fSI3XwewjV46XQMM4KVMrjgHwLiGGl+X9KT6cnXoBpDXkyWkIPX5ZRUkwWf04/c7jTU9yNQuN2XEVvFWk= Received: by 10.39.3.39 with SMTP id f39mr694601rni; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.208.61 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 01:49:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <537d06d005020301494480a560@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:49:01 +0100 From: Philip Newton To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo brivla valsi In-Reply-To: <420048D8.8070408@gulik.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: <420048D8.8070408@gulik.co.nz> X-archive-position: 1102 X-Approved-By: philip.newton@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: philip.newton@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 734 On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:28:24 +1300, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > I want to say "Brivla are words". Now, how would you say that? > > I could say: > > lo brivla cu valsi I'd probably say that, too. Or possibly {ro (lo) brivla cu valsi} to emphasise that all brivlas valsi. > (some of those which really are brivla are words). I think the "which really are" is no longer appropriate, though. > ro da zo'u da brivla .ijanai da valsi (if its a brivla, then its a word) I think you want .inaja (A implies B) there rather than .ijanai (A is implied by B) -- or, alternatively, ganai ... gi. > Which is the best way of saying this? mi na djuno mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton