Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D9Tmq-0001yP-6k for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:57:36 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D9Tmq-0001yJ-4B for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:57:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:57:36 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Moon River Message-ID: <20050310195736.GJ3265@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20050310164648.65243.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> <200503101733.j2AHXTTd005951@mole.e-mol.com> <537d06d005031009534bfb9f0d@mail.gmail.com> <200503101836.j2AIaWTd022430@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503101836.j2AIaWTd022430@mole.e-mol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 1226 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1155 On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 01:36:32PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > While we're on the topic of names, suppose I wish to address Moon > River (which incidentally is wider than a mile), to tell the > river that I am determined to eventually cross it in style. I would first ask what is wrong with you that you're talking to a river. > Let's not answer all the challenges in that sentence at one time. > First, the name. Of course it's not really a lunar river. So it > seems that a tanru, {doi lunra rirxe} is not what I'm looking > for. {doi la lunra rirxe} would be a name, "moon river," Those two are equivalent; doi takes only names. > but that seems to overlook the fact that it's not just named > "river", it really is a river. I guess I want to say "O river > 'moon'!" but I would not want to be wordy and say {doi rirxe poi > zo lunra cmene ke'a} "Oh river, specifically such that "lunar" is > the name of it!" doi rirxe po'u la lunra -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/