Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DBbaD-0005rV-3E for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:21 -0800 Received: from web41908.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.159]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DBba8-0005qg-JS for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:20 -0800 Received: (qmail 5629 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2005 16:40:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20050316164044.5627.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:40:44 PST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nu fanva zoi gy. I pledge allegiance... .gy To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1259 X-Approved-By: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 944 --- Adam COOPER wrote: > > i do nitcu zo ce'a lo nu ca'a nupre gi'e po'esti i se cau zo ce'a > > do pilno le valsi lo nu skicu e nai lo nu nupre gi'e po'esti > > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > .ui nai ru'e mi bilga lo nu spuda bau lo glibau .i ri'a bo do cremau > mi lo nu se bangu lo jbobau ku .e lo sanbau vau zo'o > > I fail to understand the role of {ce'a} here. Is it due to the {lu ... > li'u}? Because I only used {lu ... li'u} to stick the sentence in the > x5 slot of {fanva}. In the actual text the statement stands on its > own. Oops, I meant {ca'e}, not {ce'a}. {ca'e} marks the sentence as a performative, which I think is what you want here. You're not just describing a situation, you are pledging/forfeiting by saying those words. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail