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From: Bruce Webber <bruce@brucewebber.com>
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--On Friday, May 27, 2005 1:03 PM -0700 Robin Lee Powell 
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 03:29:04PM -0400, Adam COOPER wrote:
>> On 5/27/05, Bruce Webber <bruce@brucewebber.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > mi xagji .i mi na citka
>> >
>> > I am hungry. I am not eating.
>> >
>> > How do I say:
>> >
>> > Although I am hungry, I am not eating.
>>
>>
>> mi stidi lu .i mi xagji .i se mu'i nai bo mi na citka li'u
>
> This means "I am hungry, therefore it is not the case that I am not
> eating".  I'm honestly not sure what happens to the double negative,
> but I'm sure both options are not what you want.
>
> I know that the ma'oste has "se mu'i nai' as "nevertheless";
> everyone in the BPFK that has looked at that (and the related "mu'i
> nai" == "despite") has agreed that it's simply non-sensical.
>
> This page:
>
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Causation+
> sumtcita&bl
>
> discusses the BPFK view of "despite", therefore I suggest
>
> mi na citka .i to'e mu'i nai bo mi xagji

Thanks, Robin, for steering me away from "se mu'i nai".

And I see that I have a lot more Lojban to learn. What does "bo" do? Adam's 
statement was grammatical; when I saw ".i" I thought that started a new 
(independent) sentence and I fed only that part to jbofi'e.

mi'e brus.