Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DecBA-0000Mq-Nf for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:11:24 -0700 Received: from mx14.yandex.ru ([213.180.200.14]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DecB7-0000Mi-PS for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:11:24 -0700 Received: from h114.keldysh.ru ([194.226.57.114]:4108 "EHLO [194.226.57.114]" smtp-auth: "deletesoftware" TLS-CIPHER: "RC4-MD5 keybits 128/128 version TLSv1/SSLv3" TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S1782749AbVFDRLR (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:11:17 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at mx14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: deletesoftware Message-ID: <42A1AF97.3060303@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:41:43 +0400 From: "Aleksej R. Serdyukov" Organization: Delete Software Limited User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: seldetri References: <4299DD5E.8030105@yandex.ru> <20050531022313.GT21667@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <429C3694.9040006@yandex.ru> <20050531145715.GF21667@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <429C8FD4.8060607@yandex.ru> <20050531180859.GL21667@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <429DBFDA.4010205@yandex.ru> <20050602224946.GH30604@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <42A08678.4010901@yandex.ru> <20050603181546.GN30604@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20050603181546.GN30604@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1489 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: deletesoftware@yandex.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 465 Robin Lee Powell wrote: >>>>of {lu tu'a le pixra be la murkas. de'i li repa pi'e bi pi'e >>>>renonovo li'u} >>>That sentence has no selbri. Perhaps you meant "be de'i" ? >>Hm... Maybe {bei de'i}? > > Oh. Yes. Hm, doesn't it make {le pixra} dated again? jbofi'e says it does. And "Lojban for Beginners" does that to a letter. And doesn't say it's bad. But without {bei}, {tu'a} is dated. Is {tu'a} an event that has to be guessed? Then what's the problem?