Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DgNji-0007MV-02 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:10:22 -0700 Received: from bay23-dav7.bay23.hotmail.com ([64.4.22.187] helo=hotmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DgNcq-0007De-EO for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:10:18 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:03:15 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.218.132.157 by BAY23-DAV7.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:03:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.218.132.157] X-Originating-Email: [betsemes@hotmail.com] X-Sender: betsemes@hotmail.com From: "Betsemes" To: References: <20050608204646.GD15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d1756050608135842062873@mail.gmail.com> <20050608210056.GE15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560506081422399a5088@mail.gmail.com> <20050608220428.GF15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zvati Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:01:25 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2005 14:03:15.0597 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB242BD0:01C56CFB] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-archive-position: 1502 X-Approved-By: betsemes@hotmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: betsemes@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 740 > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 06:22:47PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > On 6/8/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > zvati is: > > > > > > x1 (object/event) is at/attending/present at x2 (event/location) > > > > > > Events are situated in time. > > > > In time and space, like every other spatio-temporal object. An > > event has a duration (which can be specified with ze'a) and a > > spatial extension (specifiable with ve'a). It also has a position > > in time (specifiable with ca) and a position in space (specifiable > > with bu'u). > > Yes. This was *precisely* my point when I sad "ca or bu'u as > appropriate". > So then, is this correct?: mi zvati lenu salci i mi po'o pinxe lo djacu ca lenu salci